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Re: Stellar

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Post by napoleond »

dang wrote: post #258
pieton wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No stripe.com URL boost = you'll have to work the hard way.

Whoa. There is absolutely no stripe.com URL boost, or any other kind of URL boost. The stellar.org post set off HN's voting ring detector. Edit: I (perhaps mistakenly) assumed the parent meant that HN itself was boosting certain URLs, as opposed to, say, name-recognition by users. The latter kind of thing is no doubt a factor.

> There is absolutely no stripe.com URL boost

Parent may have just meant an organic boost--I certainly notice submissions from certain domains above others, and from the looks of things it appears that others do, too. Not necessarily a bad thing at all, but it does seem to be an observable effect.

> The stellar.org post set off HN's voting ring detector.

My understanding of the detector is that (among other things, presumably) it applies a penalty when visitors follow a link directly to the submission from a page other than "new", "news", etc. Is it possible that there is a bug (at least, I think it would be a bug) by which it also penalizes submissions where the visitor has followed a link from elsewhere on HN (eg. parent's link)? I followed the link and upvoted the story, and I assume several others used that path as well.

Re: Stellar

#282

Post by borec »

gdb wrote: post #275
spacefight wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The signup with FB to get 5000 stellars pushed me off. Why should I give a totally new non-profit organisation access to my FB profile? I guess most of the devs here know, what that mean in terms of privacy.

Yep, for sure. The goal is to get stellars into the hands of as many people as possible, and so moving beyond just FB is definitely a priority. (If you want, I'd be happy to send you a few stellar to play with in the meanwhile.)

I absolutely hate Facebook but I have a Facebook account which I never use (mostly used to look up people). I tried to use this account during the Stellar registration process and I am getting "Facebook account is too new to qualify". Can you please help?

Re: Stellar

#283

Post by voronoff »

Anyone else concerned that there seems to be a permanent confirmation code for resetting pw sent in plain text over email?

"Keep this code SAFE. Anyone with this code and your username can gain access to your account"

Where I'm from, that is a password.

Re: Stellar

#284

Post by dang »

napoleond wrote: post #281
dang wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoa. There is absolutely no stripe.com URL boost, or any other kind of URL boost. The stellar.org post set off HN's voting ring detector. Edit: I (perhaps mistakenly) assumed the parent meant that HN itself was boosting certain URLs, as opposed to, say, name-recognition by users. The latter kind of thing is no doubt a factor.

> There is absolutely no stripe.com URL boost Parent may have just meant an organic boost--I certainly notice submissions from certain domains above others, and from the looks of things it appears that others do, too. Not necessarily a bad thing at all, but it does seem to be an observable effect. > The stellar.org post set off HN's voting ring detector. My understanding of the detector is that (among other things, p…

> Parent may have just meant an organic boost

Good point. I may have gotten over-sensitive! Will edit accordingly.

Re: Stellar

#286

Post by dang »

droopyEyelids wrote: post #280
dang wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoa. There is absolutely no stripe.com URL boost, or any other kind of URL boost. The stellar.org post set off HN's voting ring detector. Edit: I (perhaps mistakenly) assumed the parent meant that HN itself was boosting certain URLs, as opposed to, say, name-recognition by users. The latter kind of thing is no doubt a factor.

Do many Strip posts die from the voting ring detector?

Many Stripe posts have set off the voting ring detector in the past. This one didn't.

The ring detector doesn't kill posts, it just demotes them.

Re: Stellar

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Post by eordano »

gdb wrote: post #248
mrb wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If so, then doesn't it have all the same problems and concerns as Ripple?" Correct. Like Ripple, Stellar requires special (and dangerous) trust in certain nodes. For example, gateways ( https://www.stellar.org/blog/introducing-stellar/#gateways ) have to be trusted by the Stellar network as they send messages like "a user deposited 100 USD via a bank wire transfer, so please accept this digital representation of 100…

Gateways actually don't have to be trusted by the network. Think of them as similar to stores issuing credit: the gateway just says "the user has a credit for 100 USD, redeemable at my store". That credit is tradable, but only to other users who trust credit from that gateway. This means there needs to emerge a good system for users to decide which gateways to trust, but a malicious gateway can only directly harm the…

I smell compatibility hell.

"Hey, take my credit from X gateway" "Sorry, I don't trust X"

Re: Stellar

#288

Post by spacefight »

gdb wrote: post #275
spacefight wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The signup with FB to get 5000 stellars pushed me off. Why should I give a totally new non-profit organisation access to my FB profile? I guess most of the devs here know, what that mean in terms of privacy.

Yep, for sure. The goal is to get stellars into the hands of as many people as possible, and so moving beyond just FB is definitely a priority. (If you want, I'd be happy to send you a few stellar to play with in the meanwhile.)

Thanks - same username as on HN.

Re: Stellar

#289

Post by philipDS »

Very interesting. I always thought of Ripple as semi-scam, but I can see Stellar become a thing (be huge, actually), backed by Stripe and hopefully others soon enough.

Question.. how is the password used to decrypt the secret key? Which encryption algorithm is used? Can anyone technically explain?

Re: Stellar

#290

Post by wmf »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #268

I have to assume that becoming a gateway requires navigating the Byzantine Hellscape of multinational financial and banking regulations. Have they discovered some non-obvious way to avoid this or are the gateways expected to be run primarily by existing financial institutions?

The gateways are expected to be run primarily by Stripe? :-)
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