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Re: Rackspace Developer+ Program

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Post by rantanplan »

bsenftner wrote: post #18
korzun wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Rackspace is a tarnished brand for me. I have dozen of servers with them (both cloud and hardware) and in terms of support and network they are pretty good. If you used them back in the day, give it another shot. Totally different picture now. > But I'm drawing a blank because it's a competitive market. I don't think there is much competition when it comes to hosting mission critical applications. Typical options a…

You really should take the time to learn how to build your own server cluster. The savings is exponential. The control is complete. The knowledge is priceless.

Savings? What things do you add up, or forget to add up, to come to that conclusion?

The control is complete, as is the obliteration of your infrastructure and/or your data. Because let's face it, unless you invest the same millions(in money and hours) as Rackspace(or any equivalent company), the odds are against you :)

The knowledge is indeed priceless, if you're into that sort of thing. Some people just need to host their application... reliably.

Re: Rackspace Developer+ Program

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Post by jnoller »

bobx11 wrote: post #10
latch wrote: post #7

Rackspace is a tarnished brand for me. I immediately associate it with ridiculous pricing and bad "cloud" (mosso). With closed eyes it refused to see the quicksand of commodity it built its tower on. I was hoping to come up with ways that companies with poor brands can recapture a lost audience. But I'm drawing a blank because it's a competitive market. It's like the car industry an the generational memory people hav…

The product manager below clarified that it's a 1 year free trial... so you're pretty spot on. EDIT: I'm just realizing now that the product manager is Jesse Noller, prolific Python and PyCon contributor... so maybe it's not evil at the root after all.

It's really not evil. Seriously

Re: Rackspace Developer+ Program

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Post by michaelmior »

bsenftner wrote: post #18
korzun wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Rackspace is a tarnished brand for me. I have dozen of servers with them (both cloud and hardware) and in terms of support and network they are pretty good. If you used them back in the day, give it another shot. Totally different picture now. > But I'm drawing a blank because it's a competitive market. I don't think there is much competition when it comes to hosting mission critical applications. Typical options a…

You really should take the time to learn how to build your own server cluster. The savings is exponential. The control is complete. The knowledge is priceless.

Part of the problem is that the responsibility is also complete. And the management overhead at small scale can be pretty significant. Redundant power/networking, backups, etc.

Re: Rackspace Developer+ Program

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Post by korzun »

bsenftner wrote: post #18
korzun wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Rackspace is a tarnished brand for me. I have dozen of servers with them (both cloud and hardware) and in terms of support and network they are pretty good. If you used them back in the day, give it another shot. Totally different picture now. > But I'm drawing a blank because it's a competitive market. I don't think there is much competition when it comes to hosting mission critical applications. Typical options a…

You really should take the time to learn how to build your own server cluster. The savings is exponential. The control is complete. The knowledge is priceless.

> You really should take the time to learn how to build your own server cluster.

Not sure where I mentioned that I don't how to do that. But thanks?

> The savings is exponential.

For a lot of start-ups rolling their own infrastructure is generally a giant waste of time and money in both short and long term run.

Re: Rackspace Developer+ Program

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Post by kator »

bsenftner wrote: post #18
korzun wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Rackspace is a tarnished brand for me. I have dozen of servers with them (both cloud and hardware) and in terms of support and network they are pretty good. If you used them back in the day, give it another shot. Totally different picture now. > But I'm drawing a blank because it's a competitive market. I don't think there is much competition when it comes to hosting mission critical applications. Typical options a…

You really should take the time to learn how to build your own server cluster. The savings is exponential. The control is complete. The knowledge is priceless.

Sorry but that's like saying building a nuclear power plant to power your christmas tree in your apartment is a good idea. I agree it can be nice to learn these things but in a mission critical environment you should focus your time on what adds real value to your customers. Unless you're building the next AWS or Rackspace doing these things yourself and saving $50.00 a month is not the right place to focus your efforts.

Re: Rackspace Developer+ Program

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Post by korzun »

hyperliner wrote: post #19
korzun wrote: post #15

So I'm not sure why there is a spin on this. This is (as others pointed out) basically a free yearly trial. When I was writing an API client for their cloud infrastructure (before they rolled their own) > https://github.com/AlekseyKorzun/rackspace-open-cloud-php I had to spin up instances for testing purposes on my own dime, luckily I had disposable income. In my case, if I money was an issue, their Developer+ progra…

I have tried Digital Ocean for these types of tests. Very cheap.

Yup they are cheap and fast to provision.

I use and recommend them for projects but I'm still not sure about running production grade stuff on their infrastructure.

Re: Rackspace Developer+ Program

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Post by latch »

korzun wrote: post #16
latch wrote: post #7

Rackspace is a tarnished brand for me. I immediately associate it with ridiculous pricing and bad "cloud" (mosso). With closed eyes it refused to see the quicksand of commodity it built its tower on. I was hoping to come up with ways that companies with poor brands can recapture a lost audience. But I'm drawing a blank because it's a competitive market. It's like the car industry an the generational memory people hav…

> Rackspace is a tarnished brand for me. I have dozen of servers with them (both cloud and hardware) and in terms of support and network they are pretty good. If you used them back in the day, give it another shot. Totally different picture now. > But I'm drawing a blank because it's a competitive market. I don't think there is much competition when it comes to hosting mission critical applications. Typical options a…

There are thousands (tens of thousands?) of dedicated providers, not to mention the possibility of colocating.

But here's the kicker, even if Rackspace was better than all the other ones and you were ok with paying the hefty price, in this not-so-new commodity reality, reliability and scalability is mostly a software issue, not an infrastructure issue. A lot of it comes down to getting a reliable messaging infrastructure in place (trivial) and writing software code that lives and breaths asynchronous messaging (not so trivial).

So is Rackspace the only choice? Not even by your definition. Softlayer's a clear alternative, for example. But beyond that, reliability goes way beyond the provider, it's 96% your code.

Re: Rackspace Developer+ Program

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Post by hyperliner »

korzun wrote: post #27
hyperliner wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have tried Digital Ocean for these types of tests. Very cheap.

Yup they are cheap and fast to provision. I use and recommend them for projects but I'm still not sure about running production grade stuff on their infrastructure.

Agree. Don't run production on DO. It's still shaky and evolving. For for dev work, probably one of the best values.
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