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Re: Build hybrid apps with the Ionic Creator

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I cant't find either pricing or other hints of a valid business model anywhere. That makes me a bit wary to try it out - how long can ionic exist without income?

Hey, one of the founders here. :) Rest assured our company is financially strong and Ionic will only be getting more love going forwards. We did raise some money recently , but we actually have some nice revenue already (imagine that!).

Unlike our past products, we aren't trying to build a company around just Creator. It's a tool to help existing Ionic devs and train the future of Ionic devs, and so we want to keep it free as much as possible to just help more people build with Ionic.

Re: Build hybrid apps with the Ionic Creator

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> Sign up below for early access to the Creator beta. Annoying.

Yes, annoying that Ionic wants to beta test their new software package. How annoying of them.

Yes, but it's not an instant access beta program. So whilst I appreciate they want to beta it, I'd like to have a little play knowing that it's in beta.

Re: Build hybrid apps with the Ionic Creator

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I'm not familiar with Ionic. It describes itself as a framework for Hybrid apps, which sounds interesting, but all I can see described on the website is html and css. Anyone mind enlightening me on what that means here?

It's angular, with cordova/phonegap packaged alongside it, and then a whole load of ionic sauce in the form of css and angular directives to make the thing work on mobiles in a polished way. They're doing stuff like catching every touch event and doing debouncing, while actually improving performance. Some of it is quite impressive. I'd recommend it if you need to make an angular app look and behave like a native app…

Hey, sorry the theming is giving you trouble :( This week we've been doing a refresh of several components, and I'd love to see if we could get something like this in there, too. Want to email me (in profile) and point me to the biggest frustration with that?

Re: Build hybrid apps with the Ionic Creator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's angular, with cordova/phonegap packaged alongside it, and then a whole load of ionic sauce in the form of css and angular directives to make the thing work on mobiles in a polished way. They're doing stuff like catching every touch event and doing debouncing, while actually improving performance. Some of it is quite impressive. I'd recommend it if you need to make an angular app look and behave like a native app…

Hey, sorry the theming is giving you trouble :( This week we've been doing a refresh of several components, and I'd love to see if we could get something like this in there, too. Want to email me (in profile) and point me to the biggest frustration with that?

email sent. looking forward to a reply telling me the obvious solution to my problem which I overlooked at the time :)

EDIT: apparently a new version allowing more complex, composed UIs is on the way.

I should add that we have used it successfully to make iOS-looking apps at work, the problems I had were largely due to my need to do weird, not-very-native-looking stuff on a personal project.

Also I'd like to give ionic props for not reimplementing their own lame package management ecosystem, unlike some other client side frameworks I could mention...

Re: Build hybrid apps with the Ionic Creator

#16
post #7

I cant't find either pricing or other hints of a valid business model anywhere. That makes me a bit wary to try it out - how long can ionic exist without income?

They've previously built https://codiqa.com/ and https://jetstrap.com/

I'm guessing their experience with drag'n'drop builders for jQuery Mobile and Bootstrap led them to believe they could build a better back-end framework for them to provide a service on top of. And/or they wanted to control a larger part of the ecosystem. Whatever... It's all good.

Ionic is really nice. I've been building an app with it where I use Ionic to handle most of the visual presentation, with a bit of native Objective C to handle the bits where I felt HTML/CSS/JS wasn't quite up to the task. Even when abusing it in a way that wasn't intended i'm finding it a pleasure to work with. Recommended.

Re: Build hybrid apps with the Ionic Creator

#17
post #7

I cant't find either pricing or other hints of a valid business model anywhere. That makes me a bit wary to try it out - how long can ionic exist without income?

Hey, one of the founders here. :) Rest assured our company is financially strong and Ionic will only be getting more love going forwards. We did raise some money recently , but we actually have some nice revenue already (imagine that!). Unlike our past products, we aren't trying to build a company around just Creator. It's a tool to help existing Ionic devs and train the future of Ionic devs, and so we want to keep i…

We did raise some money recently , but we actually have some nice revenue already (imagine that!).

Thanks for that info. Using a new framework for a project always involves some leap of faith for me. Perhaps I'm a bit too conservative there, but I hate sinking hours into learning something new, only to find out that it's soon going to get abandoned by its creators. So real revenue is great to hear, ionic looks really nice so far :)

Good luck for your endeavor!

Re: Build hybrid apps with the Ionic Creator

#18

I'm not familiar with Ionic. It describes itself as a framework for Hybrid apps, which sounds interesting, but all I can see described on the website is html and css. Anyone mind enlightening me on what that means here?

It's angular, with cordova/phonegap packaged alongside it, and then a whole load of ionic sauce in the form of css and angular directives to make the thing work on mobiles in a polished way. They're doing stuff like catching every touch event and doing debouncing, while actually improving performance. Some of it is quite impressive. I'd recommend it if you need to make an angular app look and behave like a native app…

If you want flexible, you can just use vanilla Cordova. There's always a trade-off between features and flexibility.

Re: Build hybrid apps with the Ionic Creator

#19
post #7

I cant't find either pricing or other hints of a valid business model anywhere. That makes me a bit wary to try it out - how long can ionic exist without income?

Hey, one of the founders here. :) Rest assured our company is financially strong and Ionic will only be getting more love going forwards. We did raise some money recently , but we actually have some nice revenue already (imagine that!). Unlike our past products, we aren't trying to build a company around just Creator. It's a tool to help existing Ionic devs and train the future of Ionic devs, and so we want to keep i…

That's awesome. I'm such a hater of the iOS dev requirements so I really hope that the hybrid app space really takes off. Do you have any plans for mitigating JavaScript performance on mobile devices? Do you see any movement in building cross-paltform plugins?

Re: Build hybrid apps with the Ionic Creator

#20
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's angular, with cordova/phonegap packaged alongside it, and then a whole load of ionic sauce in the form of css and angular directives to make the thing work on mobiles in a polished way. They're doing stuff like catching every touch event and doing debouncing, while actually improving performance. Some of it is quite impressive. I'd recommend it if you need to make an angular app look and behave like a native app…

If you want flexible, you can just use vanilla Cordova. There's always a trade-off between features and flexibility.

That's exactly what I did in the end. I was hoping to use some of ionic's general optimisations without using its UI components, but I wasn't clever enough to work out if this was a good idea in the short time I had.
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