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Re: Introducing the Internet.org App

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Is there somewhere to complain about the domain name being an .org as this seems to be the opposite of the internet. Why don't they just give people 200Mb of free data if they really want to promote the internet. A better site name might be corpnet.com lockinnet.com.

They're giving people something for free. It's hard to complain about that.

7 corporations get to decide what the word "internet" means or which books/sites are free? What about the other N-7 corporations in the world?

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They would get the wrong idea. Access to information should not be free, the internet as it happened to develop was a mistake. We must make sure we don't let the third-world make the same.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

There are plenty of powerful people seriously arguing that the free internet is a bad thing.

Re: Introducing the Internet.org App

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My perspective on this as I just said to someone: It's an opportunity I wouldn't pass on I guess, but this is basically net neutrality in reverse. When companies start deciding which websites are free and for which you pay the "normal" price, suddenly the normal price is extra. --- So yeah a Facebook app that offers Facebook access for free. How convenient, right? For good measure throw in another few services that l…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town

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How can you trust facebook? How a non net-neutral Internet is good for Zambia? It's just clever marketing from facebook. Nothing else. Creating news costumers forced to use faceboook to keep his numbers high and growing. Its shady privacy policy and unethical experiments (and don't forget the NSA collaboration) makes of Facebook one of the worst corporations out there. I invite you to close your account.

This has got nothing to do with net-neutrality. Say my workplace internet has blocked porn, does that mean my workplace internet is non net-neutral and harmful ? On the contrary it is more productive. When you are are getting something for free, someone else is spending money for you and clearly getting something for free is better that getting nothing. In case of Comcast etc. this is not the case because these servi…

A workplace is not a regulated Internet Service Provider.

Another word for "getting something for free" is price-dumping. History has many examples of this tactic being used to destroy competitors.

If someone wants to "sponsor" free traffic, they should be required to provide some percentage of that traffic for accessing the open internet, i.e. they cannot pay to remove choices from consumers.

Would it be ok to air-drop Go Language books in one country and Swift Language books in another country? Telecommunication and culture industries are regulated for good reasons.

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The optimist in me applauds Facebook for the effort to provide basic data access to the developing world. The pessimist in me wonders if this is simply a brilliant strategy by Facebook to acquire the 4.5 billion people who aren't currently connected without having to compete with others. What's different between this and getting rid of net neutrality aside from side stepping the government entirely and doing it under…

>wouldn't you

No I wouldn't. I've hoped too many times that this kind of monopolist-but-beneficial scheme would work for the best, only to be consistently disappointed that the company behind it will use it only for its own interests when it's in a bad situation. And then everyone wonders "why did we let this happen?" Yeah...

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Is there somewhere to complain about the domain name being an .org as this seems to be the opposite of the internet. Why don't they just give people 200Mb of free data if they really want to promote the internet. A better site name might be corpnet.com lockinnet.com.

They're giving people something for free. It's hard to complain about that.

hi! welcome to the Internet! people can complain about EVERYTHING with ease. it's quite amusing from the right frame of reference

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Interesting timing considering Sprint just announced the Facebook plan for $12/month. And internet.org reeks of imperialism in the worst way.

Yep, and all the hypocrisy... Internet.org — Every one of us. Everywhere. Connected. When the blatant truth is: Internet.org — Every one of us. Everywhere. Connected. Through Facebook. Because we need MOAR users! To serve MOAR ads.

nicely put.

Re: Introducing the Internet.org App

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Is there somewhere to complain about the domain name being an .org as this seems to be the opposite of the internet. Why don't they just give people 200Mb of free data if they really want to promote the internet. A better site name might be corpnet.com lockinnet.com.

Yea, smells like silo to me.

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The optimist in me applauds Facebook for the effort to provide basic data access to the developing world. The pessimist in me wonders if this is simply a brilliant strategy by Facebook to acquire the 4.5 billion people who aren't currently connected without having to compete with others. What's different between this and getting rid of net neutrality aside from side stepping the government entirely and doing it under…

>wouldn't you No I wouldn't. I've hoped too many times that this kind of monopolist-but-beneficial scheme would work for the best, only to be consistently disappointed that the company behind it will use it only for its own interests when it's in a bad situation. And then everyone wonders "why did we let this happen?" Yeah...

Agreed, and questionable integrations like this feel connected to me: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/07/30/sprint-tries-a-facebo...
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