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Eloquent JavaScript, Second Edition

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Re: Eloquent JavaScript, Second Edition

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Looking forward to reading it. Is there a place to report bugs I noticed a type in the first chapter "Casual computing has become become much "

github link given later - may be report bug there, or just send a pull request : https://github.com/marijnh/Eloquent-JavaScript

Re: Eloquent JavaScript, Second Edition

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"These ideas were initially worked out in the 1970s and 80s, and, in the 90s, were carried up by a huge wave of hype—the object-oriented programming revolution. Suddenly, there was a large tribe of people declaring that objects were the right way to program, and that anything that did not involve objects was outdated nonsense. That kind of zealotry always produces a lot of impractical silliness, and there has been a…

This book contains some of the best writing I've seen since beginning my study of CS.

And you might at least use correct punctuation when critiquing someone else's writing.

Re: Eloquent JavaScript, Second Edition

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post #19

"These ideas were initially worked out in the 1970s and 80s, and, in the 90s, were carried up by a huge wave of hype—the object-oriented programming revolution. Suddenly, there was a large tribe of people declaring that objects were the right way to program, and that anything that did not involve objects was outdated nonsense. That kind of zealotry always produces a lot of impractical silliness, and there has been a…

I can't say I expect a book about writing computer code to be Hemingway. What's the point of this criticism? The writing is clear, concise, and does exactly what it's intended to do.

Additionally, your last line has the worst punctuation of all time.

Re: Eloquent JavaScript, Second Edition

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In regards to the book's online version, I like how it has code examples that one can edit and run inline among the book's text. I often find myself, while reading a book on a particular language, opening up a new project in an IDE or a REPL in order to fiddle around with what the book it trying to teach. This makes it much more fluid. It was a pleasant surprise. It is a nice concept I have not previously seen done.…

I just wish we had hi-res, color, e-ink monitors with quick refresh rate. I can't bring myself to read an entire book online; even if it's free.

Re: Eloquent JavaScript, Second Edition

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post #36

In regards to the book's online version, I like how it has code examples that one can edit and run inline among the book's text. I often find myself, while reading a book on a particular language, opening up a new project in an IDE or a REPL in order to fiddle around with what the book it trying to teach. This makes it much more fluid. It was a pleasant surprise. It is a nice concept I have not previously seen done.…

I just wish we had hi-res, color, e-ink monitors with quick refresh rate. I can't bring myself to read an entire book online; even if it's free.

For me, it depends on the type of book. I find I can bare reading a technical book online. However, I have trouble reading it for very long, I find myself skipping prose to get to the meat of the content, and I find a quick glance at my email or F5 on my favorite news site is just a small click away. Still, I personally find reading technical books easier on the computer while reading a novel or biography far better with a cup of coffee, an easy chair, and an e-reader.

Re: Eloquent JavaScript, Second Edition

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post #13

This is the best Javascript tutorial out there, and I was eagerly looking forward to this update. From glancing at the text, however, it seems that it doesn't cover the very significant upgrades introduced by ECMAScript 6 "Harmony". Seeing that the standard is already being finalized towards a release in 4 months[1], this seems like an unfortunate omission in an otherwise top-notch text. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/w…

Kind of a cheap shot, don't you think? Standards and browser adoption are two completely different things. It will be years before anyone tries using ES6 features in JavaScript and expects most browsers to understand them.

It wasn't my goal to take a shot at Eloquent Javascript. As I said, it's my first recommendation to any newbie learning Javascript, and an absolutely top-notch text.

> It will be years before anyone tries using ES6 features in > JavaScript and expects most browsers to understand them.

I dispute that. Many ES.next features are already implemented in popular browsers[1].

[1] http://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/

Re: Eloquent JavaScript, Second Edition

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post #13

This is the best Javascript tutorial out there, and I was eagerly looking forward to this update. From glancing at the text, however, it seems that it doesn't cover the very significant upgrades introduced by ECMAScript 6 "Harmony". Seeing that the standard is already being finalized towards a release in 4 months[1], this seems like an unfortunate omission in an otherwise top-notch text. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/w…

Doesn't sound like ECMAScript 6 is coming out until mid-2015 https://twitter.com/awbjs/status/474662357516689410 http://blog.oio.de/2014/06/13/ecmascript-6-delayed-mid-2015/

That is unfortunate. I do hope the ES author updates his text to ES6 to encourage newbies to make use of the many new features, though it's understandable he chose to refrain from it for now.
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