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Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Hi HN! I made this. Here's some info on the data before everyone goes berzerk :) Firstly, it's crowdsourced from this spreadsheet http://nomadlist.io/edit/ so it might not be 100% accurate. Secondly, NomadCost != cost of living. NomadCost is based on short-term staying in a hostel, hotel or apartment in the center, working in a coworking space and having a basic meal three times a day. That's the average digital noma…

This is a great starting index for remote workers! Thanks for this.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#52
Those european rent prices seem like a complete fantasy in some cases. Sure you get all kinds of outliers in every city but rents in Paris, Dublin and Berlin are certainly not the same. Paris is twice as expensive as Berlin, and Dublin is somewhere in the middle.

This site has much more realistic numbers: http://www.numbeo.com/common/

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#53
Why would being in the center of the city be important? I would think average anywhere in the city would be more reasonable.

I would also like to see the costs of a 2 bedroom apartment. I'd personally rather have an office in my apartment than a co-op space.

What would the price of a small house be within 10 miles of the city? (question that could be added)

How is the NomadCost calculated? These numbers don't add up: http://nomadlist.io/?hn

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#54
post #48

Added Phnom Penh to your list. If you're a remote worker it's great place. In the city most people speak English, huge expat community, USD is the main currency, stable internet, a few co-working spaces, amazingly cheap to live, and a business visa is no problem.

I spent four months in Phnom Penh over the last year or so and overall I'd agree it's not a bad place at all. Downsides are stinky trash everywhere, pedestrian-unfriendly streets, and a generally dodgy and unsafe vibe later at night. I think if I go back to Cambodia for another extended stay I'll try Siem Riep.

Personally I prefer Vietnam but Cambodia is definitely a good option too.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#56
Great concept. One feature request: Better calculations for cities with Bi-modal price distributions.

Certain cities have a extremely bi-modal distributions of pricing. I.e. they can support both the "broke artist" lifestyle, and the "upper middle class" lifestyle. Two separate cost distributions. If you try to take the mean or median of these cities, you'll end up either arbitrarily landing on one of the distributions, or a nonsense number in the middle.

A good example is Manhattan. For example, pizza can actually be cheaper in Manhattan than Sofia. In Manhattan, the broke artist lifestyle of living with multiple roommates who barely know each other, all sharing a rent controlled apartment for a few hundred dollars a month is more socially acceptable and much more common. Just taking prices from the realtor-controlled apartment websites is a poor reflection of reality. Almost no one except the richer consultants bothers with a full-time coworking desk in either city. In this case, Manhattan can actually cost less than Sofia.

So, I think the "broke artist" price distributions would better reflect what a remote working nomad would be looking for, instead of the "upper middle class" prices.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you're definitely taking your chances How could they catch you and what are the penalties, do you know? Any anecdotes you could share? Been thinking about hanging out in SEA doing remote work for a few months, would like to know the real situation.

Technically you can face a hefty fine or even jail time. I can't say I've known anyone personally that's faced this but I've heard stories. Apparently right now there's a big crackdown on tourist visas in Thailand, with people being asked to justify 2-3 month stays in Thailand with extensive itineraries and documentation and people with multiple previous tourists visas being denied entry. If you're just there on the…

Hm. Thanks for the info. Food for thought...

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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post #53

Why would being in the center of the city be important? I would think average anywhere in the city would be more reasonable. I would also like to see the costs of a 2 bedroom apartment. I'd personally rather have an office in my apartment than a co-op space. What would the price of a small house be within 10 miles of the city? (question that could be added) How is the NomadCost calculated? These numbers don't add up:…

Most digital nomads I met in years prefer to stay close to where things are happening. Namely, where they have convenient access to food, coffee shops, gyms, coworking spaces, public transport, meeting other like minded people etc. and lastly to not lose tons of valuable time due to long commute to places of interest. I think that's what the project is aiming at. Cost of living for those "edge cases" vary even more than what's discussed in this thread and it'd be damn hard to find common ground. But to answer your question: costs for a setup like you suggest/prefer may literally be half of what city center life would be.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Vang Vieng in Laos was the cheapest place I lived. Less than A$10 a day for hotel with my own room, internet, food and drinks. And it was a really beautiful place. All the restaurants had wifi, so you could sit and work there all day, overlooking amazing limestone cliffs.
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