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Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#31

Chiang Mai? You clearly haven't been there! It's nice for a holiday but not for living.

I'm in Chiang Mai right now. Granted it's not a huge city, but it's got basically everything you need to work as a nomad; Cheap rent, internet, malls, coworking, gyms, cafes, bars, tourist sites, etc.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#32
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I'm curious where the data comes from? I see that it's a spreadsheet but how is it verified? For example, I don't know what the average price of a co-working space is in Tokyo but I do know that "The Terminal" in Harajuku is only $150 a month. It's open from 11am to 11pm and includes free drinks (soda, coffee, tea). Co-ba, has more than one location, the one in Shibuya is $160 a month and is open 24 hours. The Open S…

Also 20MBPS internet in Tokyo seems very odd. According to their data, internet in Zurich is twice as fast as Tokyo. That's simply ridiculous.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#34

Good idea! But you have to add a visa information for each country. For example, I like Hong Kong, but you can't stay there more than 2 weeks (if you want stay more, you have to get work permit/get married/have business there etc). But Thailand afaik is easy country for living for a long time without work permit.

Thailand has been clamping down on tourist visa abuse lately and working there in any capacity, even if your business is entirely online and outside Thailand is illegal. You might get away with it but you're definitely taking your chances. Getting a proper work permit there is quite expensive and difficult. Cambodia and Vietnam are much laxer in this regard but also don't offer the same standard of living.

> you're definitely taking your chances

How could they catch you and what are the penalties, do you know? Any anecdotes you could share?

Been thinking about hanging out in SEA doing remote work for a few months, would like to know the real situation.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#35
You need to include visa situation, because Bangkok is 3rd, but unless you're planning to start a Thailand-based business via the BOI, you're working there illegally if you don't have a work permit, and they're cracking down on all sorts of visa irregularities at the moment.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#36
As a nomad who wouldn't mind settling down, I'm actually more interested in a place where I can register my company with prospects of becoming full-fledged citizen in the future, preferably in somewhat colder regions of the planet. I'm not entirely happy with my current passport, and working out of off-shores doesn't do much good for that.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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post #33

Costs of living are definitely way off, I live in Wroclaw, you can easily live comfortably for $1000, probably even less

This surprised me as well. "costs of living" on this page are higher than average monthly salaries in these towns.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#38
post #30

Bucharest is way undervalued. The internet speed can easily be 1Gb/s for around 15$ I think, while the montly costs for living should be around 1000$ at most in my opionion.

Renting a decent 1 bedroom apartment is about 350 dollars. 1Gbps costs 20 dollars, and it includes TV subscription (I think it includes HBO too), a fixed phone line and a 3G SIM card and/or USB stick. The cost of living is definitely less than 1000 dollars. After all the average salary in Bucharest is probably less than 1000 dollars per month, so we wouldn't be able to live here if it cost more, would we? :)

Same with Wrocław on this page.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#39

Good idea! But you have to add a visa information for each country. For example, I like Hong Kong, but you can't stay there more than 2 weeks (if you want stay more, you have to get work permit/get married/have business there etc). But Thailand afaik is easy country for living for a long time without work permit.

>For example, I like Hong Kong, but you can't stay there more than 2 weeks (if you want stay more, you have to get work permit/get married/have business there etc).

Citizens of most Western countries can stay for up to three months without a Visa, 6 months if you're from the UK or Macau.

However, I've got a few friends in Hong Kong who just do visa runs every few months to Macau, one has been living like that for 2 years. Fairly risky though.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

#40

Chiang Mai? You clearly haven't been there! It's nice for a holiday but not for living.

Chiang Mai can be one of the best locations to bootstrap a biz by many many factors. There are hundreds of entrepreneurs in varying stages at any given time. I've met ex-Googlers, ex-Applers, developers, consultants, writers, artists etc. etc.. It's a cheap and convenient place to live and focus. Depending on your budget, you can have whatever you please as far as standards go. A quick search on Google will show you that even mass media picked up on CM as a location for digital nomads.
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