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Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by thefreeman »

rdl wrote: post #46

Why is the App Store application search process so horrible? I agree, "Signal" and "Whisper" are bad things to have to search for, but there's basically no way to enter a simple memorable text string in the store and get the right app. I ended up using a browser on the phone to go to the HN article to go to the right app store link. I can't believe this hasn't been solved.

Perhaps the idea is to encourage browsing? Like how stores like Target and Walmart move things around all the time with the goal of forcing you to explore the store.

Regardless I agree trying to find apps through any of the built in app stores is a nightmare, ios, android, and windows alike.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by eliteraspberrie »

wyager wrote: post #48
eliteraspberrie wrote: post #45

It would be nice if the server software were open source as well. Call routing information, like all metadata, can only be protected legally not cryptographically. So it's not something I trust to people outside Canada, no matter how much esteem I have for them.

> Call routing information, like all metadata, can only be protected legally not cryptographically. In this system. You could, for example, route calls over Tor (with crippling latency). There is no theoretical reason you can't make a fully anonymous audio comms system.

There is no such thing as low latency anonymity.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by graeme »

thefreeman wrote: post #51
rdl wrote: post #46

Why is the App Store application search process so horrible? I agree, "Signal" and "Whisper" are bad things to have to search for, but there's basically no way to enter a simple memorable text string in the store and get the right app. I ended up using a browser on the phone to go to the HN article to go to the right app store link. I can't believe this hasn't been solved.

Perhaps the idea is to encourage browsing? Like how stores like Target and Walmart move things around all the time with the goal of forcing you to explore the store. Regardless I agree trying to find apps through any of the built in app stores is a nightmare, ios, android, and windows alike.

>Perhaps the idea is to encourage browsing? Like how stores like Target and Walmart move things around all the time with the goal of forcing you to explore the store.

It's a different situation though. In a physical store, you won't leave the store on a whim. In the app store, you can easily exit if distracted by a text, twitter, etc.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by rdl »

thefreeman wrote: post #51
rdl wrote: post #46

Why is the App Store application search process so horrible? I agree, "Signal" and "Whisper" are bad things to have to search for, but there's basically no way to enter a simple memorable text string in the store and get the right app. I ended up using a browser on the phone to go to the HN article to go to the right app store link. I can't believe this hasn't been solved.

Perhaps the idea is to encourage browsing? Like how stores like Target and Walmart move things around all the time with the goal of forcing you to explore the store. Regardless I agree trying to find apps through any of the built in app stores is a nightmare, ios, android, and windows alike.

It seems worth giving iOS apps "distinctive" names just to win the type-in traffic, if it doesn't work better; or at least having a weird company name with a boring product name so people can at least search on product.

Maybe kids these days do EVERYTHING on mobile, including web browsing to find new apps; my problem is I browse on one platform without iTunes, but want the app on my iPhone.

Re: Free, Worldwide, Encrypted Phone Calls for iPhone

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Post by superuser2 »

[deleted] wrote: post #17
nnnnni wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're going to need verifiable sources for claims like that.

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>sitting on a bunch of exploits

This is an important point. We waste a lot of breath accusing people of having deliberately planted backdoors, and moving to alternatives that we think are too trustworthy to have backdoors in them.

Whether or not the programmers behave ethically, they're still going to make mistakes and write vulnerable code like everyone else, and you'd better believe the security services (and their contractors) are looking for them.

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