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Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by valarauca1 »

sliverstorm wrote: post #62
valarauca1 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't is the problem. Adblock Plus has created a group of 'guide lines', companies who agree to follow their guide lines will have their ad's hosted. The problem is every company does not want to work directly the Adblock Plus. So a company (Pagefair) created adblock plus get around as a service , where if you work with them they get your ads around adblock by registering with Pagefair and adblock plus signing…

Presumably if Pagefair, in their role as curator, allows too many shitty ads under their wing then Adblock Plus will block Pagefair, and pretty much destroy their business. They do have an incentive.

As Pagefair pays Eyeo its would be easier to issue a notice of issue, citation, or reprimand, then it would to kill them and their revenue.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by modzoo »

alphakappa wrote: post #67
modzoo wrote: post #46

THE POINT OF THE AD BLOCKER IS TO BLOCK ADS. ITS NOT UP FOR DEBATE. THE AUTHORS OF BOTH ARE BEING DISINGENUOUS. its like supplying weapons to both sides of a war. and guys cut the "internet needs ads" crap. i have a couple of businesses and apps and make a profit because people value them and value the support i provide for them and recommend them. kind of like why hackernews works -- its legit recommendations, not s…

How exactly would a website like reddit monetize itself without ads? Donations? Or for that matter, how would HackerNews itself exist (without a YC parent) if getting users to subscribe was not an option?

but my point is that hackernews does survive. its not a pipedream

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by webwanderings »

beaumartinez wrote: post #5

I've posted this on previous ad blocking threads, and I'll post it again because I think it's very relevant— > "Adblock without the plus" isn't the original Adblock (from which Adblock Plus was forked), it's an extension created for Google Chrome once Google Chrome enabled support for extensions. Very disingenuous name. It piggy-backed on the work already done for Adblock Plus (for Firefox). > Adblock Plus for Google…

Has anyone here replaced Adblock+ and Ghostery with only uBlock? I'd prefer least minimum extensions when possible. Does uBlock provides what Ghostery does? Or do I have to get SwitchBoard to have the Ghostery alternative?

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by 616c »

lmm wrote: post #58
616c wrote: post #31

If people prefer more extreme solutions: I eventually moved to Conkeror (think Firefox, but with Emacs bindings and Emacs-like extension via javascript; I know cue the egg throwing). I was looking at other browsers to replace Firefox, as I got sick of it, and I picked Conkeror. Conkeror has a neat little feature called content-policy. I can block kinds of crap per session or site (Flash, JS, Fonts, Object tags, Image…

That's a really unfortunate name for a browser given that Konqueror already exists (and is a really good, underappreciated browser).

Haha. Well if you check out the wiki I think it was not intentional (they name it after a local beer IIRC).

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by gambiting »

modzoo wrote: post #68
gambiting wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>and guys cut the "internet needs ads" crap I imagine you must have never ever used a google product then?

perfect case in point. generating all this revenue for google based on basically tricking and redirecting old people into shit they dont need. i think ads are easy and successful and wrong. you cant imagine any other way to pull off popular internet services without ads? shit son

Of course I can and I am not saying that everyone should use ads. I am saying that the biggest internet company on the planet built its entire empire on ads - I think that in the light of that, saying that the "the internet doesn't need ads" ignores this huge oil-tanker sized elephant in the room.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by 616c »

fonosip wrote: post #49
616c wrote: post #31

If people prefer more extreme solutions: I eventually moved to Conkeror (think Firefox, but with Emacs bindings and Emacs-like extension via javascript; I know cue the egg throwing). I was looking at other browsers to replace Firefox, as I got sick of it, and I picked Conkeror. Conkeror has a neat little feature called content-policy. I can block kinds of crap per session or site (Flash, JS, Fonts, Object tags, Image…

DNS based Adblock, profile and Malware block. Make your Internet Faster and Safer with free http://BA.net/adblock

You do realize given what I wrote I would never use that, right? And for others, if we cannot trust their ad-blocking, why we would trust them with our DNS? If I wanted badly implemented filtering I would stick with: my own ISP, OpenDNS, this, in that particular order.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by avani »

Since a lot of people are running out to download Adblock Plus, you guys might want to contact Google to try and get the spam app "Adblock Plus" from exgam.com removed from the store. Apps typically show up above extensions, so I've already seen several people download the wrong one :/ .

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by Karunamon »

mhaymo wrote: post #23
miah_ wrote: post #21

Adblock Edge, since it doesn't contain the 'paid for exemptions' (aka ads). https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/ "Adblock Edge is a fork of the Adblock Plus version 2.1.2 extension for blocking advertisements on the web. This fork will provide the same features as Adblock Plus 2.X and higher but without "acceptable ads" feature. Adblock Edge was primarily branched off from Adblock Plus 2.1.2 s…

There's a setting in Adblock Plus that allows you to turn the "unintrusive ads" whitelist off. You don't need a separate add-on. I haven't felt the need to change the setting.

As far as I'm concerned, this is like a malware author asking an antivirus company to not detect some things. And the company acquiescing, because there's no real harm.

But in the end, it's all still malware.

In other words, it's a pretty massive conflict of interest.

If I wanted to look at ads, I wouldn't have installed an ad blocking plugin. Combined with the "private" list that nobody can see, there is plenty of reason to use a fork that has no such conflicts.

Re: Which is better, Adblock or Adblock Plus?

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Post by id »

miah_ wrote: post #21

Adblock Edge, since it doesn't contain the 'paid for exemptions' (aka ads). https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-edge/ "Adblock Edge is a fork of the Adblock Plus version 2.1.2 extension for blocking advertisements on the web. This fork will provide the same features as Adblock Plus 2.X and higher but without "acceptable ads" feature. Adblock Edge was primarily branched off from Adblock Plus 2.1.2 s…

Adblock Edge is 2.1.3 (June 12, 2014)

Adblock Plus is 2.6.4 (July 22, 2014)

I really want to use Adblock Edge instead of just unchecking the "Allow non-instrusive advertising" option, but I somehow doubt they have still the same features.

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