Live data from Hacker News

Updated MacBook Pros

apple.com

61–70 of 156 posts

Re: Updated MacBook Pros

#62
if only they could serve warfare tested windows drivers.

I can't believe when people tell me my macbook pro 2009 with 2GB of ram is a "little too cheap" for mavericks or xcode 5. I can't even install windows on it because the superdrive is busted. I managed to install ubuntu, but there's ALWAYS a wifi/touchpad/heating issue.

Not to mention the hardship getting some C++ project working on xcode. (like ogre for instance). Making games on it seems to be a pain since you need to find a way to move around the displaylink.

I won't try to get a mac again. If a computer cannot be nice enough to build C++ projects with, I won't use it. You all are working on web based apps, but I'm clearly not a customer of this.

preference:

1. windows laptop 2. linux laptop 3. mac laptop

It's a shame because the hardware is great, but since apple force feeds you with itunes and doesn't really want you using windows, I'll pass. Their hardware is dedicated to their OSX thingy, and I don't want it.

Re: Updated MacBook Pros

#64
post #55
post #15

I'm seriously wondering what my upgrade path is supposed to be. I have an ancient 2011 15" MBP, which was also the last user-upgradeable Apple laptop ever, but I remain hesitant to buy a new model. There is just not enough storage in the new ones, or in models that come close to my old one (1TB+) it's prohibitively expensive. At some point soon, my old MBP will probably disintegrate or get stolen, and it has features…

Stop being a packrat and move cold data to an external drive. Bonus: now you have your data around even if your laptop breaks. Once I learned to live with a 64GB macbook air, I realized that 90% of the data I was keeping around was not useful. It's very liberating. Yes, I realize 64GB of data is huge, but not for modern machines.

> Stop being a packrat and move cold data to an external drive.

How does lugging around an extra piece of equipment that is inconvenient to handle equate to being less of a packrat? No. Inventing time-consuming and frustrating coping strategies just because newer tech is more limited than the old stuff? That's not a path I'm going to embark on. There is nothing liberating about it.

The restrictions Apple currently imposes on us do not exist because they believe we should throw away our data as a matter of Zen. They exist because SSDs have not caught up yet, though at some point they will.

> Bonus: now you have your data around even if your laptop breaks.

What does breakage even mean in this context? My laptop right now has an SSD for fast system things and an HDD for bulk data. If one of them breaks, the laptop will still be usable and I just put in a spare part. If the laptop is completely destroyed, chances are an external HDD in my backpack will also be.

It's not like carrying an external backup HDD is impossible just because my laptop has adequate onboard storage - it's obviously a false dichotomy.

> It's very liberating.

I absolutely get that shedding ballast is a liberating experience, but it pertains to physical things. I have gotten rid of many, many things in my life that didn't have any real value anymore - including almost all of my books, CDs, and DVDs. The books and CDs are still with me in digital form, which is kind of the point here (the DVDs are, too, but on my home server).

The neat thing about digital possessions is that they can scale very well without encumbering you.

Re: Updated MacBook Pros

#66
post #62

if only they could serve warfare tested windows drivers. I can't believe when people tell me my macbook pro 2009 with 2GB of ram is a "little too cheap" for mavericks or xcode 5. I can't even install windows on it because the superdrive is busted. I managed to install ubuntu, but there's ALWAYS a wifi/touchpad/heating issue. Not to mention the hardship getting some C++ project working on xcode. (like ogre for instanc…

Yeah, it doesn't seem like Apple really focuses on any development outside of their platforms (iOS, OS X). It has naturally become a popular choice for web design and development because of the strong graphic design user base. Over time, the community has built a lot of great tools for web dev on the mac, though.

"Their hardware [being] dedicated to their OSX thingy" is actually a great thing for every day use. Their software (OS as well as other pieces) can be testing against very specific hardware and think that is a big part of why it is pretty reliable. That and being unix-based is a big win over windows IMO.

Re: Updated MacBook Pros

#69
post #62

if only they could serve warfare tested windows drivers. I can't believe when people tell me my macbook pro 2009 with 2GB of ram is a "little too cheap" for mavericks or xcode 5. I can't even install windows on it because the superdrive is busted. I managed to install ubuntu, but there's ALWAYS a wifi/touchpad/heating issue. Not to mention the hardship getting some C++ project working on xcode. (like ogre for instanc…

Then don't use xcode as your C++ IDE. Xcode is for developing in the Apple ecosystem, but there are plenty of other options on OSX if that's not your target. Nearly every C++ toolchain and editor available to you in linux is available in OSX as well through brew/macports(/fink).

Also windows can be installed from USB nearly as easily as ubuntu.

Re: Updated MacBook Pros

#70
post #39

The best time to buy a Mac is when you need one; if you wait forever you'll never end up buying one. My work machine died less than a month ago; a little bit annoying that this happened but there's always going to be a better, faster, cheaper Mac in the future.

Picked up a new one about 2 months ago just knowing in the back of my mind that something new would be released soon. Glad I didn't miss out on too much =)
Post reply on HN