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Re: You Are Not Late

#11

Post by meowface »

VLM wrote: post #6

"... saturated, bloated, overstuffed with apps, platforms, devices, and more than enough content ..." The article has a nice positive message, but it needs to be tempered with experience that railroads didn't go on being formed and expand forever in the 1890s, nor did car companies around 1910. Starting Tesla might be a good idea, but don't forget Delorean and Yugo, and 80s home computers, and early 80s video games.…

You make a good point, but I think it's clear that the Internet and HTTP will be here to stay for a long time. It's just a matter of creating something that adds real value.

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#12

Post by jqm »

When the author is wearing gloves with cut off fingers* and poking around in the rubble of the post apocalyptic civilization looking for an iron bar suitable for fending off packs of wild dogs, I hope he remembers writing this article.

Ok... that was a bit dark. But my point is... no one knows exactly what the future holds. I do expect he is somewhat correct and more advances are in store. But sometimes given the geopolitical and resource situation I become less confident of this as a certainty.

*Post apocalypse characters must wear gloves with cut off fingers. See Mad Max and The Matrix for specific style references if you wish to make your own in preparation.

Re: You Are Not Late

#13

Post by pllbnk »

phreeza wrote: post #8

The funny thing about the Wired article they mention [0] is that it first ridicules McDonalds for being so tech-unsavy, and in the very next sentece suggests Burger King register a domain name containing an underscore... [0] http://archive.wired.com/wired/archive/2.10/mcdonalds_pr.htm...

If there actually existed domain names with underscores, probably many casual internet users wouldn't know how to type them.

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Post by evmar »

pllbnk wrote: post #13
phreeza wrote: post #8

The funny thing about the Wired article they mention [0] is that it first ridicules McDonalds for being so tech-unsavy, and in the very next sentece suggests Burger King register a domain name containing an underscore... [0] http://archive.wired.com/wired/archive/2.10/mcdonalds_pr.htm...

If there actually existed domain names with underscores, probably many casual internet users wouldn't know how to type them.

I think phreeza's point was that underscores aren't allowed in host names. (Officially, at least. I feel like I've seen them work and then sometimes seen them not work.)

Re: You Are Not Late

#15

Post by UweSchmidt »

meowface wrote: post #10
kordless wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were afraid to do it. The sale of the domain later for a large amount of money resolved that fear inside you, only leaving the desire to have bought it. This is regret defined. While it serves a purpose in our lives in teaching a lesson, it makes very little logical sense to wish for a future scenario where you are less afraid, or more intent without considering the reasons why you were to begin with. To avoid re…

What would stop McDonalds from suing him if he refused to relinquish the domain name for free? Couldn't they claim it was trademark infringement? Edit: Changed "copyright" to "trademark".

Back then things weren't as clear-cut and I believe a lot of money changed hands when corporations realized that they need their website right now.

Re: You Are Not Late

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Post by grimtrigger »

I take issue with the comparison. The barriers to the internet were many times lower than the current round of innovations (3d printing, virtual reality). The only thing that comes close is bitcoin and the relative cheapness lasted only a few years.

Re: You Are Not Late

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Post by chimeracoder »

meowface wrote: post #10
kordless wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were afraid to do it. The sale of the domain later for a large amount of money resolved that fear inside you, only leaving the desire to have bought it. This is regret defined. While it serves a purpose in our lives in teaching a lesson, it makes very little logical sense to wish for a future scenario where you are less afraid, or more intent without considering the reasons why you were to begin with. To avoid re…

What would stop McDonalds from suing him if he refused to relinquish the domain name for free? Couldn't they claim it was trademark infringement? Edit: Changed "copyright" to "trademark".

> Couldn't they claim it was copyright infringement?

No, though they could claim trademark infringement (which is an important difference).

Trademarks can (but do not need to be) registered in order to be protected, and an unregistered trademark can trump a registered trademark if it precedes the registered one, if it is in a sufficiently different "category", if it is geographically distinct, or for a number of other reasons. One interesting example is the Burger King in Mattoon, Illinois[0].

The USPTO is very clear to note that registering a trademark is not a guarantee of validity of the trademark, and they do not issue refunds on the application if the trademark is successfully challenged and invalidated later.

In this particular case he'd be less likely to win against McDonald's, especially if all he's doing is domain squatting.... but you never know - take a look at http://www.chaseonline.com .

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burger_King_%28Mattoon,_Illino...

Re: You Are Not Late

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Post by rdl »

How we access the internet has changed (mobile, smartphones, pervasive broadband), and businesses effectively provide great services connected to the Internet (Amazon in particular), but for me, the only real changes other than those from ~1992 to today are mixed:

1) Lots more people on the Internet

2) Lower barrier to access

Sure, it's prettier, but USENET, IRC, etc. basically covered what we do with the Internet today. USENET was still technically superior to most discussion tools today; the web was a big step backward overall until the mid/late 200Xs, vs. native clients.

Re: You Are Not Late

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Post by zo1 »

jqm wrote: post #12

When the author is wearing gloves with cut off fingers* and poking around in the rubble of the post apocalyptic civilization looking for an iron bar suitable for fending off packs of wild dogs, I hope he remembers writing this article. Ok... that was a bit dark. But my point is... no one knows exactly what the future holds. I do expect he is somewhat correct and more advances are in store. But sometimes given the geo…

I, too, have fear of the future. Specifically in terms of the unstable world we live in. In some regards we're very lucky in that certain things are much more difficult for the world to let happen, mostly due to the speed at which news (and outrage) travels.

But, at the same time, I'm forced to admit that if it comes down to it, we really are very much powerless. This is specifically why I'm an anarcho-capitalist, as I believe that the state is the single most dangerous entity we can conceive of; and we've gone ahead and given it near-absolute control over our lives with what lately seems to be very little oversight.

As an aside, the article is indeed quite motivating. No time like the present, I say.

Re: You Are Not Late

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Post by pasbesoin »

UweSchmidt wrote: post #15
meowface wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would stop McDonalds from suing him if he refused to relinquish the domain name for free? Couldn't they claim it was trademark infringement? Edit: Changed "copyright" to "trademark".

Back then things weren't as clear-cut and I believe a lot of money changed hands when corporations realized that they need their website right now .

You can be too late, with respect to certain windows.

For a while, people made significant money selling highly desired domain names, including to big companies.

Now, those companies just "take them away" via trademark infringement claims. The legal structure for doing so has since been constructed and tested by them.

One of my concerns is that more and more such windows are being closed. It's not the isolated case, but the overall trend towards a corporate and corporate state restricted "push" implementation.

I.e. the end of "open".

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