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Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Post by amolsarva »

rsingel wrote: post #145
amolsarva wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy is a legend to learn from over and and over He namechecks this great older post on PR and conferences and how to launch: http://joelonsoftware.com/items/2011/09/15.html Worth a re-look for every startup founder The shortest possible version is: launch is important

I'm going to nitpick that article. Not all of the coverage of Trello at Disrupt came from writing reporters ahead of time. I know because I wrote one that mentioned Trello: http://www.wired.com/2011/09/startups-techcrunch-disrupt/ and Joel did not pre-brief me or Mike.

I guess it matters equally though that the "four that seemed to register as important to him" were all hand-crafted

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Post by MarkMc »

DigitalJack wrote: post #72

I like trello and use it for personal stuff occasionally, but the work I do just can't be hosted somewhere else. Legally. So I hate web apps and cloud this, cloud that, mostly because they are no good to me. The type of work I do would change before the need for controlled local hosting will--in other words it might be that mine line of work will become obsolete or transform so dramatically that the requirement of co…

I'm curious: Does the requirement that work not be hosted somewhere else extends to a backup service like Tarsnap?

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Post by danabramov »

petenixey wrote: post #61
johnyzee wrote: post #53

Cool to see Fog Creek succeed like this. I've been following Joel for almost fifteen years (the now defunct Fog Creek message boards were some of the best on the internet for a couple of years). From the beginning Joel made a simple assertion: Hire great people, give them a great environment, then sit back and watch them kick ass. He said this before all of this became conventional industry wisdom (and probably playe…

I agree. It's so strange now that I will often make references to Joel or his essays in talks and no-one will know who I'm talking about. I always have to explain that back in the day there were two big software essayists - PG and Joel. No youngsters knows Joel's stuff now - the internet's great at getting you today's news, yesterday's tends to get lost underfoot. Joel if you're listening please come back to blogging…

22, read most of Joel’s blog when I was 16, despite living in Nigeria with Snow.

I can’t imagine the youngsters of today never wondering who stands behind SO—and that brings you to JoS and CH too.

I’ve seen a different opinion though: people claiming Joel and Jeff spoiled a generation of developers by presenting subjective opinions as self-evident truths in the form of feel-good light reading. I don’t subscribe to this viewpoint but it’s worth mentioning.

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Post by thesz »

arthurjj wrote: post #159
ssalenik wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? How young are you talking about? I graduated about a year ago and almost everyone I knew who was really interested in writing software read at least some of his stuff from joelonsoftware...

I think it's a cultural osmosis thing. If the older developers mention stuff like "We're a 9 on the Joel test"[1] or "Obviously we shouldn't do a rewrite, what are we Netscape"[2] or "Are code base is large enough that the tooling requires static typing"[3] People will read the essays. If all anyone is talking about is tech-crunch, probably not [1] http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000043.html [2] http://…

You messed with your third link.

I've read it and I'd say that Steve Yeggie is making generalizations about static type systems using greatest common divisor of them all: Java.

He attributes the need for patterns to OCaml type system, where they aren't needed, for example. Or assumes that you need all interfaces up front.

Both those assumptions are not true!

I think SY is good at jealous humor like his post about "academy found an software engineer who cares about Haskell". That's his natural domain. I believe everything he writes is homorous and jealous, that way I don't have to think he is just plain stupid.

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Post by sanityinc »

petenixey wrote: post #61
johnyzee wrote: post #53

Cool to see Fog Creek succeed like this. I've been following Joel for almost fifteen years (the now defunct Fog Creek message boards were some of the best on the internet for a couple of years). From the beginning Joel made a simple assertion: Hire great people, give them a great environment, then sit back and watch them kick ass. He said this before all of this became conventional industry wisdom (and probably playe…

I agree. It's so strange now that I will often make references to Joel or his essays in talks and no-one will know who I'm talking about. I always have to explain that back in the day there were two big software essayists - PG and Joel. No youngsters knows Joel's stuff now - the internet's great at getting you today's news, yesterday's tends to get lost underfoot. Joel if you're listening please come back to blogging…

> back in the day there were two big software essayists - PG and Joel

Don't forget Philip Greenspun!

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Post by zkar »

Anyone else seeing lots of parallels in functionality between Trello and Google Keep (keep.google.com). I have been using keep a lot since google got rid of their google.com/ig homepage. Not finding a overwhelming reason to migrate to Trello.

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Post by tenzinnorgay »

Love how Trello is customizable to everything I want. Easy to integrate with other services, utilize their card feature and generally make task management easier. Very happy for the Trello and Fog Creek team. Look forward to seeing how it evolves on its own these coming years!

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Post by SonOfLilit »

executive wrote: post #26

We would use Trello if they added two things: 1) simple way to delete a card, list, or board (not this archive nonsense) 2) multiple lists in a column

Imagine the value Trello brings you today. Imagine the value it brings you with these two features.

Is it really different enough that it crosses the threshold of being worth using?

I find that hard to imagine. How much time do you spend looking at archived boards? What would you do with two lists in a column that you can't do today with one list that has some "subtitle" cards?

I'm asking because I'm genuinely curious to know use cases like that, not rhetorically.

My own problem with Trello (that I use a lot despite that problem) is that I feel the need for more than one view of my data, i.e. sorting it in more than one dimension. Perhaps having the ability to have two boards with the same cards. Unfortunately, I cannot imagine any good UI for this.

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Post by pc86 »

smarx wrote: post #146
smussmann wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somewhat off-topic, but on https://trello.com/enterprise , you say that you provide "24 x 7 x 365 incidence response" where I think you mean "24 x 7 x 365 incident response".

Regardless of what word comes next, it should probably be "24 x 7 x 52".

Since a business closing does not typically occur in week-long increments, probably not. "24 x 7 x 364" is generally understood to mean one day off a year (usually Christmas Day in the US), and "24 x 7 x 51" would not be clear at all.

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Post by tdumitrescu »

uniclaude wrote: post #33

That's great! Trello is one of those apps that you can dismiss too fast because you think it doesn't do enough, but which to come back to because everything else is too complex. I've been using it extensively, and it has almost gone viral around me. As in, every time someone needs to manage a project, I hear "Hey, what was this simple project management software you told me you're using for everything you do?", and t…

At my current place we use Asana and it's 1000x jankier and harder to use than Trello. This stuff really doesn't need to be that complicated.
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