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Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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> In 2010, the company spun off Stack Exchange Inc.

This is not what actually happened. As far as I remember, Stack Overflow had nothing to do with Fog Creek per se, except for Joel begin a founder of both. Stack Exchange Inc. grew from Stack Overflow Internet Services LLC which Jeff Atwood and Joel Spolsky were founders of. Fog Creek did not make Stack Overflow.

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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I love Trello. I have used it for several years now at work and for personal projects. One thing I would like to know is what the hell is Yammer? Microsoft bought them out for 1.2 billion and I've never heard of it.

It's Facebook for enterprise. Basically, everyone in your company joins the social network and you have a wall, and can post and follow others and message, etc... My company has it and much like Facebook, I have an ongoing love hate relationship with it.

I'm in a completely remote company of ~65 people, and it's purpose is likely to replace some of the water cooler talk and serendipitous culture that you miss out on in virtual work spaces. I don't think it does this, but I'm also a pretty light user.

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is actually my favorite opening line to use at talks: "My name is Kasra and I run the mobile team at Stack Exchange. The first response I always get after I tell people that is 'why does the stock exchange need mobile apps?' and I'm here to explain that to you today, except you know, with the right company name."

hey pvam

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Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Cool to see Fog Creek succeed like this. I've been following Joel for almost fifteen years (the now defunct Fog Creek message boards were some of the best on the internet for a couple of years). From the beginning Joel made a simple assertion: Hire great people, give them a great environment, then sit back and watch them kick ass. He said this before all of this became conventional industry wisdom (and probably playe…

The guy is a legend to learn from over and and over He namechecks this great older post on PR and conferences and how to launch: http://joelonsoftware.com/items/2011/09/15.html Worth a re-look for every startup founder The shortest possible version is: launch is important

I'm going to nitpick that article. Not all of the coverage of Trello at Disrupt came from writing reporters ahead of time. I know because I wrote one that mentioned Trello: http://www.wired.com/2011/09/startups-techcrunch-disrupt/ and Joel did not pre-brief me or Mike.

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are planning new features for those products, but we've already been selling those things for over a year: https://trello.com/business-class https://trello.com/enterprise We also have no plans to make an in-house solution. While the tide has not 100% turned, in most places at big companies like Amazon and Microsoft, they can already use SaaS solutions (you sign a big contract, but even if your app is on AWS, msft…

Somewhat off-topic, but on https://trello.com/enterprise , you say that you provide "24 x 7 x 365 incidence response" where I think you mean "24 x 7 x 365 incident response".

Regardless of what word comes next, it should probably be "24 x 7 x 52".

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Cool to see Fog Creek succeed like this. I've been following Joel for almost fifteen years (the now defunct Fog Creek message boards were some of the best on the internet for a couple of years). From the beginning Joel made a simple assertion: Hire great people, give them a great environment, then sit back and watch them kick ass. He said this before all of this became conventional industry wisdom (and probably playe…

With products like CityDesk, FogBugz, and Copilot failing or seemingly meandering, it didn't really seem like much would come of it. If you ever get lost trying to go to their office, tell a cabby to take you to the New York Stock Exchange, which they're adjacent to. They do not pay the rent with Broadway shows.

Yes, an interesting definition of failing (I'd be happy to fail like that). Incidentally, you may be pleased to know that I continue to use the FogBugz homepage / website as my go-to example of great 'websites that sell stuff'.

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

#148

Cool to see Fog Creek succeed like this. I've been following Joel for almost fifteen years (the now defunct Fog Creek message boards were some of the best on the internet for a couple of years). From the beginning Joel made a simple assertion: Hire great people, give them a great environment, then sit back and watch them kick ass. He said this before all of this became conventional industry wisdom (and probably playe…

Joel is definitely a hero (to me) but I think this is unfortunately very far from conventional industry wisdom. Conventional industry wisdom is SW is easy, all SW people are interchangeable cogs, stick them in a cubicle and micromanage them...

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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I would be interested if anyone has used this for project management?

My team tried it several times over the first 1 - 2 years it was out. I have not tried it recently. That said, at that time, we could never get it to stick. It was good for high level stuff, but like all project management software, we ended up constantly working to keep it in sync with reality. This was especially acute when using github because for any stuff that was code-related, we were basically duplicating tick…

I had this exact issue - my entire workflow revolves around GitHub (and by extension, GitHub Issues). Eventually found waffle.io and have been using it ever since, as it's quite Trello-like.

Re: Trello Spins Out of Fog Creek With $10.3M

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Cool to see Fog Creek succeed like this. I've been following Joel for almost fifteen years (the now defunct Fog Creek message boards were some of the best on the internet for a couple of years). From the beginning Joel made a simple assertion: Hire great people, give them a great environment, then sit back and watch them kick ass. He said this before all of this became conventional industry wisdom (and probably playe…

I think FogBugz's worst problem is its name. I feel stupid even suggesting it at work, and the name sounds silly so people ignore any suggestion I do make. Trello is a good example of a much more (word-of-mouth) marketable name.

Honestly, that sounds like a sad place to work. If the name just sounds "silly" you must not be working around software people that are very knowledgeable about the industry, otherwise they would know about FogBugz and Joel by now. I imagine many "enterprise" places are probably like that.
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