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Notorious Airbnb squatter may be the dev behind two flailing Kickstarter games

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Whatever happened to physically grabbing someone and violently throwing them out of your house?

See the previous coverage for the long version, but the tl;dr is that renters that rent for more than 30 days are protected as tenants by California law, including (normally proper) long drawn-out eviction proceedings.

Does that not mean you could live in the house too with a nice guard dog?

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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/23/travel/airbnb-squatters/ a cnn story too,an interesting one. So the guys ran 2 scams on kickstarter and is now scamming an airbnb host... well not really ,since he is just using the law against his host. > Eviction procedures in California can be lengthy and complicated, often taking three to six months to evict a tenant. http://www.businessinsider.com/airbnb-host-cant-get-squatter..…

> I would be the owner i would not ,care.I would break the door and a few windows.and camp in front of the condo/house,while waiting for the guy to leave.

It's probably really important that owners don't do this - renters (even terrible renters) have some legal protections and intimidation is a quick way to increase the legal costs and possibly end up in jail.

EDIT: Wait, did you put "nut case" in after I posted? I missed it before. Please would you consider using different insults? The person you're insulting doesn't care less about being called a nut-case, but by using such language you are subtly adding to the stigma faced by people with mental health problems. It's already harder for those people to get jobs or to rent homes, and one of the reasons is that people fear "unpredictable behaviour", and that fear is to some extent caused when we use terms to describe poor mental health to people who are displaying poor behaviour. This is a gentle request and you're free to ignore it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

See the previous coverage for the long version, but the tl;dr is that renters that rent for more than 30 days are protected as tenants by California law, including (normally proper) long drawn-out eviction proceedings.

Does that not mean you could live in the house too with a nice guard dog?

They probably could sue you for tenant harassment.

Re: Notorious Airbnb squatter may be the dev behind two flailing Kickstarter games

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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/23/travel/airbnb-squatters/ a cnn story too,an interesting one. So the guys ran 2 scams on kickstarter and is now scamming an airbnb host... well not really ,since he is just using the law against his host. > Eviction procedures in California can be lengthy and complicated, often taking three to six months to evict a tenant. http://www.businessinsider.com/airbnb-host-cant-get-squatter..…

the fact that he's using the law doesn't make it any less of a scam

Re: Notorious Airbnb squatter may be the dev behind two flailing Kickstarter games

#19
In some ways, this is the dark side of disrupting established industries: legal protections aren't in place yet; it's not clear what recourse people caught in never before seen corner cases have.

We (e.g. HN folks) are quick to applaud people with new ideas that are shaking things up (e.g. Airbnb, Uber, etc.) I suspect this is the sort of scenario detractors (e.g. Seattle City Council re: Uber) are worried about.

Terrible situation, clearly. Still, important to see some of these scenarios actually play out. And it raises all the right questions: what should Airbnb do going forward? what should legal protections be going forward? should someone have seen this coming? and should they be held liable for it?

(edit: typo)

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