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Re: Microsoft on GitHub

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Post by jenscow » Thu, Jul 24, 2014, 8:56 AM UTC

MichaelGG wrote: post #47

jenscow wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not opensource. (I know you know that, but I'm just saying) Also, it provides nothing more than ilspy does (and ilspy shows the actual code on your machine)

Decompiling certainly does not provide the same code or info as reference source.

When debugging, you usually want to see the exact code that's being run - not a "reference" version which may not have the certain bit of code that you're trying to workaround/call.

The only advantage that the reference code is the variable names are original, and there's a few comments (but no XML documentation?).

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

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Post by oliyoung » Thu, Jul 24, 2014, 10:29 AM UTC

skrebbel wrote: post #44

oliyoung wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in that it's an admission that they're guilty of not being open and collaborative

wtf, "guilty of not being open". Not being open is a crime now? It's a perfectly valid business strategy.

it's an admission they think they should've been

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

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Post by skrebbel » Thu, Jul 24, 2014, 10:44 AM UTC

oliyoung wrote: post #52

skrebbel wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wtf, "guilty of not being open". Not being open is a crime now? It's a perfectly valid business strategy.

it's an admission they think they should've been

So adapting to change is now "an admission"?

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

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Post by Stately » Thu, Jul 24, 2014, 10:46 AM UTC

mynameisvlad wrote: post #30

nicohvi wrote: post #25

I love how microsoft.github.io redirects to microsoft.com/openness which instantly brings back the feel of webdesign from the 90s. In my opinion they could've made a statement here, actually demonstrating by example that they're moving away from their previous corporate image, with a nice landing page, ala facebook react's github.io page.

I'd rather they focus their time on actual open source technologies and tools, as opposed to landing pages. In the end, the quality of the things they put out should be what is being judged, not some landing page.

Yeah because everybody knows that if Microsoft lacks something is resources to build a static landing page.

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

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Post by seanmcdirmid » Thu, Jul 24, 2014, 11:18 AM UTC

59 karma points, 5 hours old, in the middle of the night USA time, and...on the third page?

Is someone flagging this as off topic?

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

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Post by dspillett » Thu, Jul 24, 2014, 12:58 PM UTC

rcarmo wrote: post #50

dspillett wrote: post #45

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> come on, they have a lot of money and they ask help? They are not going to be able to buy community buy-in that they want, no matter who they hire and what other money they throw around. Asking the wider populous for their input early (assuming the filtering and acknowledging of that input is done right, and they continue to "play nice" once they've got what they want) is a good thing for both them and the end user…

It's probably just an IT thing. Many companies opted to deploy Firefox internally as an alternative to IE because it played well with their software management tools (as opposed to Chrome, which only got centralized version management later). In IT/helpdesk settings, you want to know what specific browser version your users are running to ensure intranet apps are compatible. Because, you know, legacy. Anyone who's us…

I know why a browser would be install across the board - the thing that confused me was why the person I was replying to thought it was significant to this thread - there was an implication that it was the same sort of thing as "MS asking for help", which I don't see.

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 24, 2014, 1:32 PM UTC

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Re: Microsoft on GitHub

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Post by WorldWideWayne » Thu, Jul 24, 2014, 2:49 PM UTC

nspattak wrote: post #26

Part of me is very excited to see such an advancement. The other part of me (the one that has been "beaten" by MS for so many years) just doesn't trust them. I would most certainly check their code but I would be extra-super careful before using their code! I would consider even using an anonymous or home account to login github and download their source!

What part of you has been "beaten" by MS for so many years and how?

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

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Post by usingpond » Thu, Jul 24, 2014, 2:57 PM UTC

scope wrote: post #13

erowtom wrote: post #2

http://www.microsoft.com/openness

has anyone noticed the 'openness blog' where there's a custom scroll bar where if you want to scroll you have to DRAG it --- hey maybe it's because am using Firefox, maybe i should try it on IE :) edit: maybe this will get me more down-votes --- has anyone noticed how on the 'About Openness' menu, something pops up on hover but you can't click it --- PS: to notice this wonderful effect you have to use Firefox 31 yeah…

Microsoft's web developers are pretty notoriously horrendous in both their approach and execution.

One common mistake across ALL Microsoft sites is not bothering to embed their fonts, or declare fallbacks. So it looks great on their boss' computer but everybody else gets goddamned Times New Roman.

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

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Post by mynameisvlad » Thu, Jul 24, 2014, 5:32 PM UTC

Stately wrote: post #54

mynameisvlad wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather they focus their time on actual open source technologies and tools, as opposed to landing pages. In the end, the quality of the things they put out should be what is being judged, not some landing page.

Yeah because everybody knows that if Microsoft lacks something is resources to build a static landing page.

In their open source teams? They probably do.