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Re: Microsoft on GitHub

#41

Post by fibo »

Microsoft and also IBM now feel sorry about their wrong behaviour, but it is really ridicolous that they say in the TypeScript project "if you want to help us, go to GitHub" ... come on, they have a lot of money and they ask help? Hiring people would be smarter! I went to an IBM meeting talking with the IBM Cloud Leader in Italy and all that hi profile people. All of them use Firefox (no one uses Chrome), did they sponsor Firefox? It seems they are a poor company that now need help.

Shame on you Microsoft and IBM!

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

#42

Post by umurkontaci »

laureny wrote: post #18
oliyoung wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in that it's an admission that they're guilty of not being open and collaborative

No, they're saying they are going to be "more open", which implies they were already open. No apology there (nor should there be).

Though it means they were not open "enough". I agree on no apology part, it is just an "open" statement.

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

#43

Post by [deleted] »

antr wrote: post #24

FWIW, I have the feeling that the best exit for Github is getting acquired by Microsoft. Github is a large, savvy, community, constantly sharing interesting and valuable projects. I think MSFT needs that public perspective of being 'open', valuable community, new technologies, etc. The enterprise side of Github also plays nice with MSFT.

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Re: Microsoft on GitHub

#45

Post by dspillett »

fibo wrote: post #41

Microsoft and also IBM now feel sorry about their wrong behaviour, but it is really ridicolous that they say in the TypeScript project "if you want to help us, go to GitHub" ... come on, they have a lot of money and they ask help? Hiring people would be smarter! I went to an IBM meeting talking with the IBM Cloud Leader in Italy and all that hi profile people. All of them use Firefox (no one uses Chrome), did they sp…

> come on, they have a lot of money and they ask help?

They are not going to be able to buy community buy-in that they want, no matter who they hire and what other money they throw around.

Asking the wider populous for their input early (assuming the filtering and acknowledging of that input is done right, and they continue to "play nice" once they've got what they want) is a good thing for both them and the end user: they'll more likely be able to release something right earlier (rather than everyone hating it until version 3).

> did they sponsor Firefox?

I'm going to have to ask you to explain the IBM connection here as I'm just not seeing a logical link between these statements and your point about Microsoft. How is IBM people preferring to use Firefox instead of something else? I wan't aware that IBM had any particular axe to grind in the current browser game.

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

#46

Post by dmitrypopov »

harshreality wrote: post #27
scope wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

has anyone noticed the 'openness blog' where there's a custom scroll bar where if you want to scroll you have to DRAG it --- hey maybe it's because am using Firefox, maybe i should try it on IE :) edit: maybe this will get me more down-votes --- has anyone noticed how on the 'About Openness' menu, something pops up on hover but you can't click it --- PS: to notice this wonderful effect you have to use Firefox 31 yeah…

To be fair, their javascript mousewheel hackery breaks mousewheel scroll on all three major browsers. I guess they think people still click and drag scroll bars, so didn't run into the scroll wheel problem during cursory "testing". There's another interesting bug, if you click on the thin part of the scroll bar, below the thick bar representing visible content, the bar centers on where you click. If you then click ab…

I was talking about "rail" which is indeed 1px, and the area around it is clickable.

.mCSB_draggerRail { width: 1px; }

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

#47

Post by MichaelGG »

jenscow wrote: post #37
lars wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, here's the source: http://referencesource.microsoft.com (under the MS reference license)

That's not opensource. (I know you know that, but I'm just saying) Also, it provides nothing more than ilspy does (and ilspy shows the actual code on your machine)

Decompiling certainly does not provide the same code or info as reference source.

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

#49

Post by mr_sturd »

harshreality wrote: post #27
scope wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

has anyone noticed the 'openness blog' where there's a custom scroll bar where if you want to scroll you have to DRAG it --- hey maybe it's because am using Firefox, maybe i should try it on IE :) edit: maybe this will get me more down-votes --- has anyone noticed how on the 'About Openness' menu, something pops up on hover but you can't click it --- PS: to notice this wonderful effect you have to use Firefox 31 yeah…

To be fair, their javascript mousewheel hackery breaks mousewheel scroll on all three major browsers. I guess they think people still click and drag scroll bars, so didn't run into the scroll wheel problem during cursory "testing". There's another interesting bug, if you click on the thin part of the scroll bar, below the thick bar representing visible content, the bar centers on where you click. If you then click ab…

It's probably just a touchstart event that it's listening for - just as their Metro interface neglects anything to do with mouse and keyboard.

Re: Microsoft on GitHub

#50

Post by rcarmo »

dspillett wrote: post #45
fibo wrote: post #41

Microsoft and also IBM now feel sorry about their wrong behaviour, but it is really ridicolous that they say in the TypeScript project "if you want to help us, go to GitHub" ... come on, they have a lot of money and they ask help? Hiring people would be smarter! I went to an IBM meeting talking with the IBM Cloud Leader in Italy and all that hi profile people. All of them use Firefox (no one uses Chrome), did they sp…

> come on, they have a lot of money and they ask help? They are not going to be able to buy community buy-in that they want, no matter who they hire and what other money they throw around. Asking the wider populous for their input early (assuming the filtering and acknowledging of that input is done right, and they continue to "play nice" once they've got what they want) is a good thing for both them and the end user…

It's probably just an IT thing. Many companies opted to deploy Firefox internally as an alternative to IE because it played well with their software management tools (as opposed to Chrome, which only got centralized version management later). In IT/helpdesk settings, you want to know what specific browser version your users are running to ensure intranet apps are compatible.

Because, you know, legacy. Anyone who's used Siebel, Oracle intranet apps, etc. knows what it's like.

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