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Re: Show HN: ProveTrust, a user trust reputation system for the web

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Post by jessaustin »

somerandomness wrote: post #10
mvid wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for a company that would have been a target client for a product like this. In the end, we didn't use one of the many similar solutions (legit.co, trustcloud, scaffold, peertrust, project trust, truly, etc..) for two reasons: * We didn't want to give our information away. It was a nonstarter. Either to protect it from being used by competitors or because of security concerns of giving private user informatio…

Thanks for the feedback. In this case, the target clients are regular users, not companies. Craigslist doesn't need to share any of their data for this to be useful to Craigslist users. "Whether someone commits sexual harassment on OkCupid doesn't matter when you are trying to buy their toaster on eBay." You can choose to ignore this information, but for some users it may be a relevant signal. I personally would rath…

If data isn't coming from service providers, does that mean it's all coming from user reviews? ISTM that e.g. Yelp (there are others too) has been working through the inherent difficulties for some time, and they haven't exactly got it figured out yet. What if one of the first million reviews/ratings leads to a lawsuit? Does this all just go away?

Re: Show HN: ProveTrust, a user trust reputation system for the web

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Post by z131 »

somerandomness wrote: post #13
davidcollantes wrote: post #11

Sign in with Facebook: -1 Trust based on social media: -1 I remember Thawte used to have a WOT (web of trust), and "web notaries." If was an interesting idea, based on personally meeting, providing passport as a proof, etc. and have people already trusted vouch for you. They shut it down.

Thanks for the feedback. I plan on adding other forms of login in the future; Facebook just has the largest user base.

I'm with the parent commenter. I actually deleted my Facebook, but would love to utilize this service to create a public trust profile. I just can't involve social media accounts.

Re: Show HN: ProveTrust, a user trust reputation system for the web

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Post by somerandomness »

Scalar wrote: post #18

Very cool, have seen a few sites doing this sort of thing. The only concern with these type of services is the fact that scammers will harvest trust on small trades and then scam big trades. Your service should verify the real life identities of users or perhaps work in some sort of escrow. Best of luck

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, this is a common tactic that scammers on eBay do. I will work on mitigating this form of abuse.

Re: Show HN: ProveTrust, a user trust reputation system for the web

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Post by somerandomness »

z131 wrote: post #22
somerandomness wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the feedback. I plan on adding other forms of login in the future; Facebook just has the largest user base.

I'm with the parent commenter. I actually deleted my Facebook, but would love to utilize this service to create a public trust profile. I just can't involve social media accounts.

What other accounts would you be comfortable associating with this trust profile? Would you hook up your GitHub?

Re: Show HN: ProveTrust, a user trust reputation system for the web

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Post by drdaeman »

somerandomness wrote: post #24
z131 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm with the parent commenter. I actually deleted my Facebook, but would love to utilize this service to create a public trust profile. I just can't involve social media accounts.

What other accounts would you be comfortable associating with this trust profile? Would you hook up your GitHub?

I'd hook up my PGP key. Or X.509 certificate. Or old good username and password pair. Something I can truly own and handle. Why do I need some third party to have an identity?

Then I'd enlist accounts with any imaginable third parties (email addresses, Facebook, VKontakte, Google+, BitCoin addresses, GitHub, BitBucket, StackOverflow and so on and so on) as something I have at the moment.

Re: Show HN: ProveTrust, a user trust reputation system for the web

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Post by dshanahan »

jasonkester wrote: post #12

I looked into jumping into this space recently, and doing my research it seems that all the companies doing this exact same thing (and there are lots of them) make the same mistake that this one does: Involve the customer in the loop. This requires Joe AirBnB User to actually sign up for an account with the service (and a dozen others) and tell it about all the places that it should agglomerate reputation from. That'…

This. Also exactly why each ecosystem has their own trust mechanisms built right in.

Re: Show HN: ProveTrust, a user trust reputation system for the web

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Post by kolev »

jasonkester wrote: post #12

I looked into jumping into this space recently, and doing my research it seems that all the companies doing this exact same thing (and there are lots of them) make the same mistake that this one does: Involve the customer in the loop. This requires Joe AirBnB User to actually sign up for an account with the service (and a dozen others) and tell it about all the places that it should agglomerate reputation from. That'…

We tried this and failed. None of the big guys want to share any data with you. They want to build their own reputation system.

Re: Show HN: ProveTrust, a user trust reputation system for the web

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Post by tiogemini »

Any way to tie into Keybase (https://keybase.io/)? They already have my public key and several identities.

An interesting direction would be to build an open Rapportive. Index and associate everyone you can think of and make the information searchable. E.g, John Doe == facebook.com/johndoe == linkedin.com/profiles/john.doe == twitter.com/johndoe == www.jdoe.com

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