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Re: Hemingway App now available

#52

Hemingway is an app which makes terrible, and largely trivial stylistic advice. Fortunately, the real Hemingway had no truck with following such terrible "rules": http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=10416

As with all tools, it depends on how you use it.

If a writer lets software dictate his style, then he's hopeless. But I think this can be a good tool for helping you introduce more variety to your writing.

It can help open up stylistic choices as opposed to auto-pilot writing. We've all written something with nary a thought, and usually it stinks. You don't have to follow its recommendations, but it can make you stop and re-evaluate what you've written, and that makes it more useful than one might imagine.

As a first-line editing tool, I think it's clever, don't you?

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#53
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Could someone create a gmail plugin to filter my outgoing emails through this. Maybe it would help to make my emails clearer and more persuasive.

No, because instead of discerning if you're a dullard by the quality of your writing at a glance, I'll instead have to stumble through mechanically de-voiced inanity. At least without Hemmingway your stream-of-consciousness as committed to typed form can be examined and admired as a unique reflection of your particular damage.

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#54

Ironic that an app calling itself "Hemingway" would recommend against the word "Utilize". As a key example of "things to avoid" no less. Utilized in one of the more memorable exchanges in The Sun Also Rises: "Let us rejoice in our blessings. Let us utilize the fowls of the air. Let us utilize the product of the vine. Will you utilize a little, brother?" ... and so on for nearly ten pages, utilizing wine, pubs, etc. h…

Hemingway didn't write very Hemingwayish. That is, he didn't write the way many people caricaturize him. He has a big vocabulary and can, in fact, create more than a 5-word sentence.

That being said, "utilize" is one of my peeves, too. "Utilize" rather than "use" and "gift" as a verb. We hates them, we does.

Re: Hemingway App now available

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're one of those people who like to use "utilize." I've always thought the word is used willy-nilly by people with feeble minds in order to "sound fancy," but you seem like an alright guy. Could you tell me why you'd want to use "utilize" instead of "use"? Do you intend a different meaning e.g. make-use-of-in-unexpeded-way, or do you see them as synonyms? To me, it sounds horrible---a buzzword and a French-isis…

So you're one of those people who like to use "utilize." Far from it. Looks like this is the first time I've ever typed it: https://hn.algolia.com/?q=jasonkester+utilize#!/all/forever/... Hemingway is, though. A quick google search shows that he also has written "helpfully" a few times in his novels, which is another forbidden word in the app we're discussing. That's what we're doing, by the way: discussing a piece o…

The software calls out "helpfully" because it's an adverb, a part of speech that's good in small doses (according to the creators of the software).

Re: Hemingway App now available

#56
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're one of those people who like to use "utilize." I've always thought the word is used willy-nilly by people with feeble minds in order to "sound fancy," but you seem like an alright guy. Could you tell me why you'd want to use "utilize" instead of "use"? Do you intend a different meaning e.g. make-use-of-in-unexpeded-way, or do you see them as synonyms? To me, it sounds horrible---a buzzword and a French-isis…

To me, "utilize" means to use properly. It has a positive connotation that "use" does not. edit: dictionary.com seems to agree. "to put to use; turn to profitable account"

The first definiton of "use" (as a verb with an object) is very similar:

"1. to employ for some purpose; put into service; make use of: to use a knife."

Re: Hemingway App now available

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post #54

Ironic that an app calling itself "Hemingway" would recommend against the word "Utilize". As a key example of "things to avoid" no less. Utilized in one of the more memorable exchanges in The Sun Also Rises: "Let us rejoice in our blessings. Let us utilize the fowls of the air. Let us utilize the product of the vine. Will you utilize a little, brother?" ... and so on for nearly ten pages, utilizing wine, pubs, etc. h…

Hemingway didn't write very Hemingwayish. That is, he didn't write the way many people caricaturize him. He has a big vocabulary and can, in fact, create more than a 5-word sentence. That being said, "utilize" is one of my peeves, too. "Utilize" rather than "use" and "gift" as a verb. We hates them, we does.

This is the key point. He tended to use active voice, single clauses, and simple words. None of that is the same as small sentences and a limited vocabulary.

His approach was as simple as possible, but unlike what this app creates, no simpler.

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#58

Say I wanted to start writing an e-book, would this be an acceptable editor? Does it output to PDF,.mobi formats? or should I go with something like LaTeX?

FYI, LaTeX is not an editor. Although it does produce good PDF's, given all of the LaTeX-to-HTML things I've seen, I would be sceptical of producing .mobi with it.

Re: Hemingway App now available

#60
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Ironic that an app calling itself "Hemingway" would recommend against the word "Utilize". As a key example of "things to avoid" no less. Utilized in one of the more memorable exchanges in The Sun Also Rises: "Let us rejoice in our blessings. Let us utilize the fowls of the air. Let us utilize the product of the vine. Will you utilize a little, brother?" ... and so on for nearly ten pages, utilizing wine, pubs, etc. h…

Hemingway App is a tool useful is you're not a great writer. If you want to write something original, or magic, you better not use it. I understand that you might not be criticizing the app directly, but as you are the top comment, I thought it would be useful as a reminder.

I do think that attempts to create something original can be helped by this, but only if it's used carefully. After I've reworked something many times, the parts I've fiddled with the most are often too complicated and obscure.

I've gotten a bit of use out of this, but only by throwing it at things which are already written and edited, and then ignoring most of it's suggestions. I end up treating it as a list of things to check, not a list of problems to fix.

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