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No skin thick enough: The daily harassment of women in the game industry

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Re: No skin thick enough: The daily harassment of women in the game industry

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Where did Tumblr come from?

The abuse he author suffered from a tumblr post is literally the first thing in the linked article.

Sorry, that slipped my mind. I thought it was a Reddit post. In any case, it wasn't a random Tumblr blog, it was reblogged by someone who has been the target of online hate because of whatever reason. Hate transfers onto associates.

Re: No skin thick enough: The daily harassment of women in the game industry

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Hopefully you don't mind me responding here. I appreciate your attempt to understand what I was saying but I was only saying that the experience of an anonymous woman in tech is going to be different from the experience of a public writer on the Internets, when it comes to abusive language. What is your day-to-day like?

I guess you read what you want to read :) It's just like any other IT guy's day. Go to work, do your job, fuck up a bit, say sorry, give others a hard time when they fuck up :P But seriously, no difference apart from the fact that I can see men at work are very cautious around me as far as cracking jokes is concerned. But I can't really blame them with all these sexual harassment out of nothing stories floating aroun…

It's all in the delivery. But yours is pretty much the experience I have seen from the outside: anonymous tech female worker is NOT receiving rape/death threats on a daily basis from co-workers or customers.

I'm glad your life is as uninteresting as the regular IT guy ;)

Re: No skin thick enough: The daily harassment of women in the game industry

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Stats or GTFO.

Not everything in life can be apprehended through stats, and sometimes we should be able to simply acknowledge the fact that others are having a hard time because of the way we're shaping our society. But anyways, here's something that's been posted earlier : "In 2006, researchers from the University of Maryland set up a bunch of fake online accounts and then dispatched them into chat rooms. Accounts with feminine us…

Aha, so now we're back to talking about online harassment, which is NOT what the title of the linked article is implying.

People in this thread need to make up their minds.

And if you want me to listen to your arguments, don't side with people who are trying to hijack entire populations for their own agenda.

Re: No skin thick enough: The daily harassment of women in the game industry

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She's a target of the threats because she's a public writer. It's not good and obviously it's not her fault, but sometimes it feels like a woman-in-tech's workday must go something like this according to the articles I see: 7am: coffee 8am: get to work 9am: rape threat from coworker #1 10am: standup meeting 11am: death threat from coworker #2

I think a big weakness of this article is that it goes from talking about horrible treats from random people to unconscious bias of coworkers without a clear transition. People skimming the article might think that she was getting threats from coworkers. The unconscious bias of developers and the toxicity of the gaming community are very different problems.

Exactly. The HN crowd needs to be smarter when we see articles like this. Demand, as readers, that there are no such mind tricks. Article title must reflect content, not hyperbole or agenda.

Re: No skin thick enough: The daily harassment of women in the game industry

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Not everything in life can be apprehended through stats, and sometimes we should be able to simply acknowledge the fact that others are having a hard time because of the way we're shaping our society. But anyways, here's something that's been posted earlier : "In 2006, researchers from the University of Maryland set up a bunch of fake online accounts and then dispatched them into chat rooms. Accounts with feminine us…

Aha, so now we're back to talking about online harassment, which is NOT what the title of the linked article is implying. People in this thread need to make up their minds. And if you want me to listen to your arguments, don't side with people who are trying to hijack entire populations for their own agenda.

I don't want you to listen to my arguments, I was simply answering to your question about stats. I have often found out that convincing people that didn't want to be convinced took way too much energy.

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And now you are on hacker news telling people how they should feel. How hypocritical of you.

Today I learned that calling out people's sexist propaganda is actually telling people how they should feel. I am enlightened, you should feel proud of yourself. (whoops, sorry) (not really)

Just curious - have you read an article online about women's rights that you personally haven't thought was sexist propaganda? It's times like this where I think people get confused between whether your against just this article (saying it's horribly written) or just women speaking out in general.

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Aha, so now we're back to talking about online harassment, which is NOT what the title of the linked article is implying. People in this thread need to make up their minds. And if you want me to listen to your arguments, don't side with people who are trying to hijack entire populations for their own agenda.

I don't want you to listen to my arguments, I was simply answering to your question about stats. I have often found out that convincing people that didn't want to be convinced took way too much energy.

For the necessary intellectual rigour we need on HN, I cannot allow combining only tangentially related arguments to create a narrative.

Re: No skin thick enough: The daily harassment of women in the game industry

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It's depressing that the first few top level comments here have been deleted due to their ridiculous content, people presumably read the article then decided to post things like "its banter, get over it. Men deal with it all the time". Just shows how deep the problem goes I guess.

It goes just as deep for men as it does for women, if not moreso.

Do you see us crying about it?

Grow up already.

Re: No skin thick enough: The daily harassment of women in the game industry

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Safe from what? People's right to free speech? Abolish the Constitution, I guess.

Death and rape threats are not protected speech.

If you think you have a case, file charges.

But that would be inconvenient if you made up the fiction of harassment to push your agenda or sell your product, wouldn't it?

Re: No skin thick enough: The daily harassment of women in the game industry

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Safe from what? People's right to free speech? Abolish the Constitution, I guess.

The right to free speech does not entail the right to stalk, harass, and threaten. There are long established limits.

If you think you have a case, file charges.

But that would be inconvenient if you made up the fiction of harassment to push your agenda or sell your product, wouldn't it?

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