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Want an Unpaid Internship So You Can Get Valuable Experience ? – Screw You

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Re: Want an Unpaid Internship So You Can Get Valuable Experience ? – Screw You

#41

A billionaire complaining he has to pay people.... to paraphrase the title of the post, screw him.

Actually, he's complaining that he can't employ people for a project that probably won't happen at all unless he can employ interns. You're saying "screw him" because he wants to create something that is of greater advantage to people entering the workforce than not having it in existence at all.

Re: Want an Unpaid Internship So You Can Get Valuable Experience ? – Screw You

#42

Perhaps this is why most unpaid internship programs require you to line stuff up with your school. This was they can classify it as an educational activity?

Did you read the article? Apparently even internships used to satisfy school requirements are often illegal.

Re: Want an Unpaid Internship So You Can Get Valuable Experience ? – Screw You

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

unlicensed medicine That's completely different. The licensing of medical practitioners is not based on any notion of protecting society from deviant behaviour; it is based on the need to protect vulnerable individuals from fraud. I have no problem with consenting individuals engaging in sex acts or internships, with or without pay -- but I absolutely believe that fraud, in all its forms, should be illegal, since a f…

One need not be licensed to be honest.

One need not keep their train ticket to have purchased one...

Re: Want an Unpaid Internship So You Can Get Valuable Experience ? – Screw You

#45
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is The Whitehouse a for profit privately owned business (eg via stock).

I understand that.. but the fact that the white house and politicians he rails against have interns show that they think it is a positive experience. They also know a for-profit business should be paying their workers. (Not to say I agree one way or the other. It is a fine line between experience and exploitation)

re: "It is a fine line between experience and exploitation" - shouldn't the person getting the experience/being exploited be the arbiter of that rather than some random bureaucrat?

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#46
post #4

So call it volunteering? Surely volunteers are not illegal yet.

You could call it cddddring if you like. The question is whether the labor of the person benefited the company in any way. If it did, then according to the Fair Labor Standards Act the person must receive compensation.

http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/regs/statutes/FairLaborStandAct.p...

Re: Want an Unpaid Internship So You Can Get Valuable Experience ? – Screw You

#47
post #5

They're the same issues with minimum wage. The "minimum wage brings minimum jobs" because it hurts those with the least experience the most ( http://blogs.abcnews.com/johnstossel/2009/08/new-video-minim... ). The irony is that people who call themselves advocates for the poor pushing for increasingly higher minimum wages actually hurt the poor with these policies.

Well, this ought to be obvious. A trade union exists to promote the interests of its members and its leaders (not necessarily in that order). As the union itself creates no added value, it can only do this in a zero sum fashion - at the expense of both employers and the unemployed and anyone else who isn't a member.

Re: Want an Unpaid Internship So You Can Get Valuable Experience ? – Screw You

#48
post #17

Where our politicians would rather see you pay out of your pocket to go back to school rather than get valuable on the job experience. huh.?. from what I have seen, politics almost runs on interns. Every politician and political organisation has unpaid interns doing real work. The whitehouse has hundreds.. http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/Internships/

Government wants free labor, but doesn't want people to get internships in the private sector. This is hypocrisy -- not a defense of government.

Re: Want an Unpaid Internship So You Can Get Valuable Experience ? – Screw You

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However the profits for his business would not be enough to justify minimum wage. I think he gave the game away here: One silver lining of a “great recession” that we are now in is that there are a lot of incredibly talented people without jobs, or who have lost their jobs....I thought we could assemble a talented group who would enjoy the internships and could also gain valuable experience to add to their resumes.…

So . . . the fact you don't want him to be able to benefit from an internship is good enough reason to make sure the would-be interns don't get to benefit from it either. Is that it?

Not at all, it could be very beneficial to all parties. More power to him and the free market system.

But his concern for the betterment of the interns is just sanctimonious prattle. He doesn't like to leave money on the table, and he's peeved that the government will prevent him from getting the best price possible.

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