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Ask HN: My 8-year old nephew finally wants to be a hacker. How should he start?

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For years I've been hoping that my nephew would eventually want to become a hacker. I strongly believe that he can do whatever he puts his mind to - he's really smart and have the necessary curiosity and persistence, but also some more difficult-to-define ways of thinking and personality traits (despite his young age) that I recognize mostly from the best hackers I've met. The Force is strong with this one.

Today, while visiting SF with his family, he finally asked me for help to get started. He even told me that he wants to become the best computer geek in his class (I love that it's becoming cool to be a nerd, and wish it was like that when I was in third grade :)). Being 8 years old he's of course very interested in mobile apps and games, but I don't have much experience with either kids or building mobile apps/games. Still, I want to give him the best advice possible so I figured I'd ask you guys:

* How do you start coding and building apps when you're 8 years old?

* Are there tutorials/getting started guides that are particularly suitable for kids?

* Anything else he or his parents should know?

Ideally he'd be able to build something cool relatively quickly without understanding everything. He can always dive into the details when he know how things tie together at a high level, but it's probably important that the learning process is rewarding and fun all thew ay. At least that worked for me and now I get off over low-level stuff and algorithms on a daily basis.

I'm hoping for help and recommendations particularly from people who have (or just understand) kids, or have otherwise guided a young aspiring hacker onto the path of true awesomeness. Any advice is welcome though as I'm somehwat limited to vague talks about XCode, Swift and showing him what mobile OSs really look like (i.e. Android mascots at Google).

Re: Ask HN: My 8-year old nephew finally wants to be a hacker. How should he start?

#2
You're the uncle I hope to be to my 2 year old niece when she gets older. Good onya!

I don't have kids myself and thus no direct experience to share, but my friends with kids in this situation seem to have the best luck with the hardware-based tools.

Two that come to mind:

https://www.play-i.com/

http://littlebits.cc/

I'm sure there are numerous others these days.

Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: My 8-year old nephew finally wants to be a hacker. How should he start?

#4
It is premature optimization to push him too much one way such as into app development. It sounds like you just have an inquisitive 8-year-old so help him learn and grow. He might end up being an amazing bio-physicist, so I like the idea of exposure a lot more than setting him specifically into only programming.

Build K'Nex with him. Eat dehydrated ice cream with him and explain why it is often called "astronaut ice cream". Take him to children's museums where he can play with levers and such. Fly a drone with him. Heck, build and program a drone with him. Fix a bike together. Get a VCR for $5, hook it up to a TV but in pieces so he can see the parts move as the image comes on TV. Do the same thing with a DVD player right after that. Build model railroad together. Get ham radio certified. Visit whatever local planetarium / star gazing events are out there. Grab a multimeter and let him measure different things. Take two D batteries and connect them with a piece of steel wool and watch it light on fire. (Ok, maybe not that one...)

Re: Ask HN: My 8-year old nephew finally wants to be a hacker. How should he start?

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You're the uncle I hope to be to my 2 year old niece when she gets older. Good onya! I don't have kids myself and thus no direct experience to share, but my friends with kids in this situation seem to have the best luck with the hardware-based tools. Two that come to mind: https://www.play-i.com/ http://littlebits.cc/ I'm sure there are numerous others these days. Good luck!

Good idea, playing with hardware seems like fun. Thanks!

Re: Ask HN: My 8-year old nephew finally wants to be a hacker. How should he start?

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It is premature optimization to push him too much one way such as into app development. It sounds like you just have an inquisitive 8-year-old so help him learn and grow. He might end up being an amazing bio-physicist, so I like the idea of exposure a lot more than setting him specifically into only programming. Build K'Nex with him. Eat dehydrated ice cream with him and explain why it is often called "astronaut ice…

No, definitely do that one! I did as a young'n by brushing 9V contacts against the steel wool and had fun times with negligible burns.

Re: Ask HN: My 8-year old nephew finally wants to be a hacker. How should he start?

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It is premature optimization to push him too much one way such as into app development. It sounds like you just have an inquisitive 8-year-old so help him learn and grow. He might end up being an amazing bio-physicist, so I like the idea of exposure a lot more than setting him specifically into only programming. Build K'Nex with him. Eat dehydrated ice cream with him and explain why it is often called "astronaut ice…

I've never wanted to push him in any particular direction - or push him at all for that matter. That's also why I'm excited he asked about it himself: Becoming a hacker is (and should be) a choice.

I mostly asked for mobile apps/games because that's what he is mostly interested in and asked about. It might not be the best way to start though. And you're right, hacking certainly isn't limited to coding, and he can learn from building all kinds of things. I wish I could do that, but we live 5500 miles apart and my time is pretty limited.

Luckily for him, his dad already does a good job at building stuff with him :-)

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