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Ask HN: What to do when you are successful, hate it, and can't seem to change?

#1
tl;dr: I love software engineering, my skills are quite good, but all too often I get stuck in the "business side" of management. Have anyone else been stuck in business like this? Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get out of the business side and back into the software engineering?

A bit of background. I am a self-taught but successful software engineer. I write, speak and teach on engineering topics constantly. I also have a background, due to family, in business so I understand business topics quite well. My educational background is in law, though I dropped, because I did not like law, and I love software engineering!

Over the last decade or so I have consistently been put in positions at companies where I engineer AND help with business development/product operations. I have always been hired as an engineer but within short order I am snagged for business advising as well. This hasn’t been all bad. I have been involved with the successful sale of 2 startups, soon to be 3, worked with some brilliant people at the top of some Fortune 50 companies, etc. The problem is I don’t enjoy meeting with executives at 8pm over drinks to try to discuss the next big deal. I don’t like to make presentations late into the night to put in front of Venture Capital, Series A/B investors, or Executives. I still write software with a team all day and then I am “invited” (told I must) meet with others well into the evening for the good of the business. I come home late at night and I am upset, irritable, hating what I do. Some say it is depression, but would I want a medication to fix what is obviously a lifestyle problem? Some say I should change jobs, but I do that about every 6 months to 2 years now.

So, HN, has anyone else been in a situation like this and found a way to just get back to engineering? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Ask HN: What to do when you are successful, hate it, and can't seem to change?

#2
It is tough to give you advice when we don't know your whole situation (do you need a job because of health care, for example).

Maybe you can just consult? That makes is easier to turn down work you don't want. And don't list your business experience on your resume/LinkedIn profile.

Re: Ask HN: What to do when you are successful, hate it, and can't seem to change?

#3
People equally skilled in programming and business are rare. Hell, even moderately tech-literate businesspeople are rare. So you are being recruited to positions where your combination of skills is going to profit the company the most.

What do you do? If quality of life is more important to you than money, you say no to the recruiting. Otherwise, you say yes. We can't make this decision for you. Everyone's value ordering is different.

Re: Ask HN: What to do when you are successful, hate it, and can't seem to change?

#4
Refuse. Do you have a problem saying no? Why are you not setting boundaries? If your home life is important to you then you need to speak your mind. Tell them 'No, I dont want your promotion, I will be going home at a reasonable time to my family'. Is that so hard? Here's another tip - accept remote positions, and remove any business education from your resume.

Re: Ask HN: What to do when you are successful, hate it, and can't seem to change?

#5
I can relate to this, though on a different direction and i know it easy it is to slip into another role, that you dislike. I haven't yet figured out how not to do it, even considering switching from these kind of jobs entirely just to avoid ending up in your situation.

Re: Ask HN: What to do when you are successful, hate it, and can't seem to change?

#7
Maybe you'd be happier working for larger companies, where developers are rarely (if ever) involved with the business side of things. You don't need to go to a place as large as Google, just a place that's big enough that developers and business people are in distinct departments under different management.

Re: Ask HN: What to do when you are successful, hate it, and can't seem to change?

#8
Maybe this is easier than you think. It sounds like you have little trouble getting hired for SE jobs. Are you being hired for your business acumen? If not, take most or all that stuff off your resume. Then find another job as a software engineer. The other tack is to avoid startups. A large enterprise is much less likely to drag you into business discussions if you don't have a business related job discussion.

Re: Ask HN: What to do when you are successful, hate it, and can't seem to change?

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post #3

People equally skilled in programming and business are rare. Hell, even moderately tech-literate businesspeople are rare. So you are being recruited to positions where your combination of skills is going to profit the company the most. What do you do? If quality of life is more important to you than money, you say no to the recruiting. Otherwise, you say yes. We can't make this decision for you. Everyone's value orde…

Alternatively, your employer realizes they can get two employees' worth of work out of you, so they do.
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