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My Uber got pulled over by the Denver police – and then things got really weird

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Re: My Uber got pulled over by the Denver police – and then things got really weird

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Drama drama. It seems like 'police are bad' is such a popular prejudgement, and if a police officer pulls you over he definitely wants to throw you to jail for no reason. Police officer pulled over. Anything wrong with that? Nope. Officer asked for the documents. Anything to get offended with? Nope. >>> “Seattle man arrested for taking Uber to the Denver airport.” Did officer mention anything about arresting, anythin…

I take it you've never been in a similar situation? If you've ever dealt with an officer of the law in an adversarial situation where you believe you've done nothing wrong, it can be an unnerving or even terrifying experience. The power imbalance is immediately and palpably felt (what I think the author was trying to convey by mentioning the clearly-visible gun). If the officer had wanted to arrest the citizen (who,…

>>> Not answering the questions, throwing the license back at the passenger

At the end of the day, cops are people. They get tired, frustrated, etc. I don't expect them to act like my personal servants.

>>> I take it you've never been in a similar situation?

I have, more than once. Actually, in a very similar situation.

I took a bus for the first time in that country, got the ticket, and didn't know that I need to get a stamp on it. No one told me. The bus gets stopped, tickets check. I am told "get off the bus, I will teach you how to use public transportation". OK. "Get in this van" "why?" "do it". okay, a bit odd, but will do. Feeling nervous, but didn't act like a dick self taught lawyer. Explained the situation, stayed nice and cool, I was told that it's my first day here, got $10 fine and took the next bus. Other passengers were acting like dicks and no one was nice to them.

Other situation. I got letter that I must come to police station, to explain some things. It was because I was writing a blog about poker and someone perceived it as illegal. I had to go to 'economic crimes division'. Again, nervous but staying cool. I told everything, I said that I'm just translating from Wikipedia, I am not getting anything back from it and I'm not promoting anything, stayed nice all the time, didn't question anything about law, etc. A month later I get a letter, that everything's dropped, I did nothing wrong.

Would I have questioned the law and etc, probably wouldn't have been so easy. But people were just doing their jobs and I didn't obstruct them.

Re: My Uber got pulled over by the Denver police – and then things got really weird

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Here's a better headline: "My Uber gor pulled over by the Denver Police, and the officer mistakenly told us Uber is illegal." Maybe not so many clicks that way, though. I agree that this was a rather unfortunate and odd experience, but I don't see what the big deal is. The only thing that struck me as "really weird" about this is that the author called a Denver Post reporter to get live legal information while he was…

The purpose of a headline is to attract the reader's attention so yours is not better. But you already proved that yourself by clicking on on title and reading the article.

Re: My Uber got pulled over by the Denver police – and then things got really weird

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Drama drama. It seems like 'police are bad' is such a popular prejudgement, and if a police officer pulls you over he definitely wants to throw you to jail for no reason. Police officer pulled over. Anything wrong with that? Nope. Officer asked for the documents. Anything to get offended with? Nope. >>> “Seattle man arrested for taking Uber to the Denver airport.” Did officer mention anything about arresting, anythin…

I take it you've never been in a similar situation? If you've ever dealt with an officer of the law in an adversarial situation where you believe you've done nothing wrong, it can be an unnerving or even terrifying experience. The power imbalance is immediately and palpably felt (what I think the author was trying to convey by mentioning the clearly-visible gun). If the officer had wanted to arrest the citizen (who,…

> Is this some rogue cop enacting some personal vendetta against alternative hirecar arrangements?

The worst action movie plot line ever ...

Re: My Uber got pulled over by the Denver police – and then things got really weird

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I take it you've never been in a similar situation? If you've ever dealt with an officer of the law in an adversarial situation where you believe you've done nothing wrong, it can be an unnerving or even terrifying experience. The power imbalance is immediately and palpably felt (what I think the author was trying to convey by mentioning the clearly-visible gun). If the officer had wanted to arrest the citizen (who,…

>>> Not answering the questions, throwing the license back at the passenger At the end of the day, cops are people. They get tired, frustrated, etc. I don't expect them to act like my personal servants. >>> I take it you've never been in a similar situation? I have, more than once. Actually, in a very similar situation. I took a bus for the first time in that country, got the ticket, and didn't know that I need to ge…

Didn't the nuremberg trials teach people that 'just doing their jobs' does not exempt them from ethical decisions? So you have a shitty job. That doesn't mean you need to be a shitty person, prioritizing victimless crimes over actual crimes.

Re: My Uber got pulled over by the Denver police – and then things got really weird

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Here's a better headline: "My Uber gor pulled over by the Denver Police, and the officer mistakenly told us Uber is illegal." Maybe not so many clicks that way, though. I agree that this was a rather unfortunate and odd experience, but I don't see what the big deal is. The only thing that struck me as "really weird" about this is that the author called a Denver Post reporter to get live legal information while he was…

> Of course, in a perfect world, an officer would know everything about Colorado law. But that is clearly unrealistic. Citizens of Colorado are supposed to know and obey the law and apparently citizens of Washington state are expected to as well, if they are visiting. Why is it unrealistic to expect a Colorado police officer to know the law?

Besides, the police shouldn't try to enforce particular laws until they are confident about their understanding of them.

Re: My Uber got pulled over by the Denver police – and then things got really weird

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take it you've never been in a similar situation? If you've ever dealt with an officer of the law in an adversarial situation where you believe you've done nothing wrong, it can be an unnerving or even terrifying experience. The power imbalance is immediately and palpably felt (what I think the author was trying to convey by mentioning the clearly-visible gun). If the officer had wanted to arrest the citizen (who,…

>>> Not answering the questions, throwing the license back at the passenger At the end of the day, cops are people. They get tired, frustrated, etc. I don't expect them to act like my personal servants. >>> I take it you've never been in a similar situation? I have, more than once. Actually, in a very similar situation. I took a bus for the first time in that country, got the ticket, and didn't know that I need to ge…

> At the end of the day, cops are people. They get tired, frustrated, etc. I don't expect them to act like my personal servants.

You shouldn't expect a cop to act as your servant, but you sure as shit have an expectation that they will act professionally and courteously towards you. You also should expect them to not abuse their power. I don't give a shit if your dog died and your wife left you, if you are given a position of essentially unchecked power over me, you better use it judiciously.

Re: My Uber got pulled over by the Denver police – and then things got really weird

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Here's a better headline: "My Uber gor pulled over by the Denver Police, and the officer mistakenly told us Uber is illegal." Maybe not so many clicks that way, though. I agree that this was a rather unfortunate and odd experience, but I don't see what the big deal is. The only thing that struck me as "really weird" about this is that the author called a Denver Post reporter to get live legal information while he was…

The purpose of a headline is to attract the reader's attention so yours is not better. But you already proved that yourself by clicking on on title and reading the article.

Yes but perhaps it should also be accurate?
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