Why has nobody mentioned https://unhosted.org/ yet?
That's what I thought. They have been around for a while, too, haven't they?
Own your own data
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Re: Own your own data
#42I like the idea of owning and controlling the permissions of all my data at the source, then those settings applying everywhere on the internet - in all the different social media services and systems out there.
Stored in the cloud space of my choice. Continually updated as I live my life, my data would be something I own that I could selectively share to social media services or other individuals or systems with fine-grained control over the whole lot.
Services like Facebook would need to change how they worked. Facebook would not disappear it would just shift its focus to offering a place to use your data.
Taking back the data keys would be a cool direction to evolve, and fun having new responsibilities of managing your own living-breathing data, be it stored in the cloud, your phone, or an encrypted USB stick- up to you.
Re: Own your own data
#43This, or something like this, is my best guess at dealing with the "loss" of privacy. THere are some exciting ideas coming out of (of all places) UK local government, looking at ways to tame the crazy number of proprietary apps that think they should own the database at the centre of their world - simply by forcing the data into the app then back again.
Can you provide a reference to, or a better description of the 'ideas coming out of UK local government' please?
Hard to remember - some devs / architects I met at LGA conference are trying to reduce their internal app footprints and move to a database is not the cow nor yours model.
Re: Own your own data
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I disagree. The technology needs to be fundamentally different before we can have viable, distributed, alternatives. We've had crypto for a while and yet nobody encrypts their email by default (or even shares keys). We've had the option to self-host for a long time but few people do. Why? IMHO it's because doing any of these things means you have to become a sysadmin to some degree. Very few people will put up with t…
> Why? IMHO it's because doing any of these things means you have to become a sysadmin to some degree I long wished that the App Store model could/would be applied to server stuff. Imagine the following scenario: - Buy a Mac Mini (or whatever Airport Server or enhanced Time Capsule) - get Mail Server.app/Calendar Server.app from the App Store - have a couple dialogs which configure the sandboxed app with DNS details…
Some consumer NAS boxes have this, and there's a Linux distro called Yunohost that does this (and they'd probably love to have more contributors).
Re: Own your own data
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with that. I think the technology is the easy part. If we knew there was demand for a specific solution then there are plenty of folks who can build it. In fact I think we have built the technology on numerous occasions (i.e. Diaspora, OpenPhoto/Trovebox, OwnCloud, etc.) --- finding the market, describing it in a way that connects with people and being at the right spot at the right time are the difficult par…
I disagree. The technology needs to be fundamentally different before we can have viable, distributed, alternatives. We've had crypto for a while and yet nobody encrypts their email by default (or even shares keys). We've had the option to self-host for a long time but few people do. Why? IMHO it's because doing any of these things means you have to become a sysadmin to some degree. Very few people will put up with t…
> We've had crypto for a while and yet nobody encrypts their email by default (or even shares keys). We've had the option to self-host for a long time but few people do. Why? IMHO it's because doing any of these things means you have to become a sysadmin to some degree. Very few people will put up with that for long.
It's not only that. Previously, encrypting e-mail brought a bigger benefit (at relatively high cost in expertise, maintenance) than it does today, because we no longer own our machines the way we used to. PCs are now permanently connected to the 'net, OS vendors can install anything they like whenever they want, Smartphones come without administrative privileges for the owner even.
What use is encrypted e-mail when various unknown corporate / government entities "own" your device and can work around e-mail encryption easily (by installing a keylogger, grabbing your private key etc.)?
We need to get ownership of our devices back before thinking about crypto too much.