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This can be huge - apparently the ones responsible for the shooting will do everything they can to cover it up. Will Putin cut his ties off and leave Ukraine to itself or will he start his propaganda machine?
Its a huge loss - people that have nothing to do with this conflict died just because they were in wrong place in wrong time...
Worth noting: Two days ago, an actual AN-26 cargo plane was shot down [1]. At the time, Ukraine assumed it had to be a Russian missile, because they did not think the rebels had the ability to shoot anything above a ceiling of about 2.5 kilometers. This seems to be confirming that the rebels are the ones doing the shooting. The intelligence agencies of the world are having a busy day, I'm sure. [1] http://www.nytimes…
AN-26 shooting, allegedly by rebels, proofs that malaysian boeing was shot by rebels.
By that logic UA did this because it shot down russian civil plane in 2001, admitting it after months.
Worth noting: Two days ago, an actual AN-26 cargo plane was shot down [1]. At the time, Ukraine assumed it had to be a Russian missile, because they did not think the rebels had the ability to shoot anything above a ceiling of about 2.5 kilometers. This seems to be confirming that the rebels are the ones doing the shooting. The intelligence agencies of the world are having a busy day, I'm sure. [1] http://www.nytimes…
This is just brilliant. AN-26 shooting, allegedly by rebels, proofs that malaysian boeing was shot by rebels. By that logic UA did this because it shot down russian civil plane in 2001, admitting it after months.
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Yeah, but you've been on here long enough to know that major off-topic news won't get flagged/will be forced up on the front page for a while. HN understands that sometimes our tech news bubble has to be popped with a little dose of the real world every once in a while. This isn't just a plane crash, this was an aircraft that was shot down while on a perfectly normal commercial flight between two major international…
If someone lives in a hole so deep that they haven't heard about this, I'd say it won't make much of a difference for them. I haven't flagged this, but I think you're overestimating the importance of the presence of this story on HN.
Already in the wayback thread on this, I've discovered a news tracking startup and an in depth discussion for people who take this exact flight and route.
This wasn't a plane passing between Baghdad and Kabul or some similar dangerous route. There's been a couple of other flying related accidents today also. This is the notable one.
If you take a plane frequently (like I expect lots of people here do), you'll probably be interested in this story and the kind of in-depth discussion that only HN can bring to bear on it.
edit Just found out the relative of a person I know was on the plane and is now dead.
It's interesting how the right to be forgotten seems so desirable, yet when something like this happens it's great that no one can cover up their tracks. Now the pro-Russian separists are trying to delete all sorts of info. We have this tweet about them getting a bunch of anti-aircraft missiles ( http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NF6E5FC... ), showing off their new toys ( https://twitter.com/grassw…
Sorry, but this is a complete mischaracterization of the right. I've been having the same conversation with Yonatan Zunger on G+, he tried cracking a similar joke there.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+YonatanZunger/posts/856eZ9hWtm3
It's a flagrantly specious argument.
Compelling public right to know in an international incident, attack on the public, by armed militants operating in defiance of local and international law.
That passes any reasonable grounds for denying an RTBF request.
Now, ask me about the identities of individuals whose passports are shown on a video linked here, and I might be open to debate (though this raises the question of whether or not RTBF is ceded on death).
If you're interested in an informed discussion of RTBF, I'd strongly recommend Max Huijgen's threads on G+:
"Google's Cynical Manipulation of the Right To Be Forgotten"
https://plus.google.com/+MaxHuijgen/posts/dLnAX2j3Y2Z
"What should fall under the European right to be forgotten and to reverse it: what should fall under the 'right to know'?"
https://plus.google.com/+MaxHuijgen/posts/Jsw9W8xESK9
And one more from Yonatan Zunger: "The Right To Be Forgotten: A Question"
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From HN guidelines: "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports [...]. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic." Source: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8050351
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This is just brilliant. AN-26 shooting, allegedly by rebels, proofs that malaysian boeing was shot by rebels. By that logic UA did this because it shot down russian civil plane in 2001, admitting it after months.
You have it backwards. All the piles of evidence that they shot down the MA flight indicate they probably also had the capability two days ago to shoot down the AN-26, and therefore probably did.
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Why on Earth would Ukraine try to shoot down Putin? To get absolutely sure they'll be annihilated by Russia??
Since the beginning of the conflict UA did everything they can to provoke Russia into crossing border. Well, almost everything.
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You have it backwards. All the piles of evidence that they shot down the MA flight indicate they probably also had the capability two days ago to shoot down the AN-26, and therefore probably did.
UA has the very same capability since USSR days and therefore probably did.