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Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17

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Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17

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It's interesting how the right to be forgotten seems so desirable, yet when something like this happens it's great that no one can cover up their tracks. Now the pro-Russian separists are trying to delete all sorts of info. We have this tweet about them getting a bunch of anti-aircraft missiles ( http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NF6E5FC... ), showing off their new toys ( https://twitter.com/grassw…

What does "right-to-forget" have anything to do with the separatist pulling info from (supposedly) his own website? I don't see Google or any other search engine involved in this situation at all. Stop conflating things - that someone can post content and remove it of their own volition while Wayback Machine captures it is not germane to the discussion of whether it's ok to be forgotten. Now if the separatist had iss…

It's not his own website. It's VKontakte, a rather large eastern european social network.

Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17

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post #15

There are claims that the BUK was geolocated via video footage before the plane went down: https://twitter.com/djp3tros/status/489848712450277376

There are also claims that UA was really trying to shoot Russian Plane #1 which was flying close to malaysian boeing both in time and space There are many claims.

Why on Earth would Ukraine try to shoot down Putin? To get absolutely sure they'll be annihilated by Russia??

Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17

#44
Let's not be blinded by bloodlust. Let me walk past all of the flamebait and caution that amateur detectives should heed caution before they start pointing fingers everywhere. This wouldn't be the first time that people were certain of guilt only to be demonstrated otherwise later.

Let's not make people causalities until the dust settles at the very least.

Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are also claims that UA was really trying to shoot Russian Plane #1 which was flying close to malaysian boeing both in time and space There are many claims.

Why on Earth would Ukraine try to shoot down Putin? To get absolutely sure they'll be annihilated by Russia??

Since the beginning of the conflict UA did everything they can to provoke Russia into crossing border.

Well, almost everything.

Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17

#46
post #39

It's interesting how the right to be forgotten seems so desirable, yet when something like this happens it's great that no one can cover up their tracks. Now the pro-Russian separists are trying to delete all sorts of info. We have this tweet about them getting a bunch of anti-aircraft missiles ( http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NF6E5FC... ), showing off their new toys ( https://twitter.com/grassw…

It's easy to cover your tracks, don't post shoot down videos on Facebook, or supply and weapon inventories. I don't know how this could even be considered 'tracks', it's strategic information that should never have been posted in the first place. (Assuming the rebels are running a military operation in hopes of gaining control of territory) Also, if the information wasn't suppressed it would still be just as popular.…

It is pretty clear if you listen to nterviews, that the pro-russian rebels are mostly morons. With friends like that who needs enemies.

Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17

#47
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easy to cover your tracks, don't post shoot down videos on Facebook, or supply and weapon inventories. I don't know how this could even be considered 'tracks', it's strategic information that should never have been posted in the first place. (Assuming the rebels are running a military operation in hopes of gaining control of territory) Also, if the information wasn't suppressed it would still be just as popular.…

It is pretty clear if you listen to nterviews, that the pro-russian rebels are mostly morons. With friends like that who needs enemies.

Yeah, no kidding they should be on America's Dumbest Criminals.

Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17

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post #12

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I don't think any of the passengers were from the US.

"The State Department was trying to confirm reports that 23 Americans were aboard the downed aircraft, spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said." (http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-mis...)

Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17

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I don't think any of the passengers were from the US.

BBC news quoted airport officials reporting 23 US citizens. Some US passports have also appeared in photographs purporting to be from the scene.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/malaysia-airl...

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