Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17
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Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17
#2You can donate to the Internet Archive here: http://archive.org/donate/
Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17
#3Why was the previous thread about this killed? I know it's off topic for HN, but it is pretty major fucking news.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8049325
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honestly, if you're flagging this story, you may as well turn in your human card
edit2 so this has stirred up something since I'm watching my karma flutter up and down like a butterfly's wings.
Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17
#4Why was the previous thread about this killed? I know it's off topic for HN, but it is pretty major fucking news. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8049325 edit honestly, if you're flagging this story, you may as well turn in your human card edit2 so this has stirred up something since I'm watching my karma flutter up and down like a butterfly's wings.
It's on topic with the Wayback Machine involvement.
Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17
#5It's interesting how the right to be forgotten seems so desirable, yet when something like this happens it's great that no one can cover up their tracks. Now the pro-Russian separists are trying to delete all sorts of info.
We have this tweet about them getting a bunch of anti-aircraft missiles (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NF6E5FC...), showing off their new toys (https://twitter.com/grasswire/status/489823087190224897/phot...) and the most important one of the day of the rebel leader (or whoever manages his Vkontakte account) bragging about downing planes before he knew that one was civilian (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache%3...).
The http://grasswire.com users keep finding more and more of these - It seems desirable that we can delete stuff online and have it go away, but sometimes the Streisand effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect) is a great thing.
Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17
#6Why was the previous thread about this killed? I know it's off topic for HN, but it is pretty major fucking news. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8049325 edit honestly, if you're flagging this story, you may as well turn in your human card edit2 so this has stirred up something since I'm watching my karma flutter up and down like a butterfly's wings.
There were probably a half dozen of those today. The first one was here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8048083
Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17
#7Look at how many versions the WM has for that page - this seems to be a case where the recently unveiled 'on demand' archiving may have massively paid off.
Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17
#8It's interesting how the right to be forgotten seems so desirable, yet when something like this happens it's great that no one can cover up their tracks. Now the pro-Russian separists are trying to delete all sorts of info. We have this tweet about them getting a bunch of anti-aircraft missiles ( http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NF6E5FC... ), showing off their new toys ( https://twitter.com/grassw…
> It's interesting how the right to be forgotten seems so desirable, yet when something like this happens it's great that no one can cover up their tracks. Now the pro-Russian separists are trying to delete all sorts of info.
Are war crimes what 'right to be forgotten' is all about?
Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17
#9You can donate to the Internet Archive here: http://archive.org/donate/
It's always worth a reminder that the Archive is run on donations, and is a rare, precious resource. Someday I hope it's use as an Internet log file of public record continues to help.
Privacy is a big deal, but we also need to combat the memory hole effect. Hopefully a good balance can be struck!
Re: Wayback Machine points to pro-Russia rebels in downing of MH17
#10I was following the news from the conflict in Ukraine and when the plane got downed, pro-Russia rebels were celebrating all over the internet (thinking that they'd downed a Ukrainian supply plane). When it became obvious the plane was civilian, the celebratory posts and videos started to disappear with blazing speeds.