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Re: ITerm2 2.0

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Awesome, congrats on the release! Aside: Check For Update... still gives 1.0.0.20140629 as the latest version. Have to download a 2.0 build explicitly. http://www.iterm2.com/downloads.html

You have to switch off development releases to get 2.0.

Unchecked and updated.. thanks for the tip!

Re: ITerm2 2.0

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tmux is my main use-case for a fast terminal. Even something as simple as resizing a split in my main 266x188 session while nothing else is happening makes Terminator (VTE-based) into a juddering laggy mess. urxvt's nice and responsive even while catting a million line file into one of the splits - I can use other terms and resize splits without a problem, hitting ^C stops cat instantly, and it's done displaying the…

> unusable for over a minute. There is something seriously wrong with your setup. I use Terminator and byobu (with tmux) all day and never experienced what you describe.

It's responsive and fast for you in a single fullscreen 2560x1600 term while catting a large file in a split? Performance is a lot more reasonable if you're using more traditionally-sized terms and let Terminator manage the splitting.

Perhaps it's depending on some hardware acceleration feature not provided by VirtualBox.

Re: ITerm2 2.0

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to HN: What changed you from "terminal.app is good enough" to "I prefer iTerm"? Because that's what I'm asking myself.

I really wish iTerm would include the Terminal.app OSX-style keyboard shortcuts as a ready-made selectable profile Every time I install it on a new computer I have to google a bunch of places and set up the key bindings again

Send me yours and I can add it as a preset.

Re: ITerm2 2.0

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Naive question, but I keep trying iTerm and not being able to quite figure out why I should switch. In the mid-2000s it was a much better program than Terminal.app, but that doesn't seem to have been true for quite some time. Terminal.app has tabs, 256-color mode, themes, full screen support, and as people have mentioned in other comments, session recovery and much better performance. The only things I can think of o…

iTerm's ability to make "non-lion" fullscreen windows is worth a tremendous amount to me.

Agreed! This is a killer feature for me. Would love to be able to disable Lion-style fullscreen across the board....

Re: ITerm2 2.0

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post #135

I love iTerm, couldn't live without it.. To me Terminal.app isn't much better then PuTTY on Windows. That said I'm a bit worried when I read stuff like "manipulate the pasteboard remotely" and "performed when text matching a regular expression is received". Are these potential security concerns and/or what is the performance impact of regex'ing every single line of text etc?

Naive question, but I keep trying iTerm and not being able to quite figure out why I should switch. In the mid-2000s it was a much better program than Terminal.app, but that doesn't seem to have been true for quite some time. Terminal.app has tabs, 256-color mode, themes, full screen support, and as people have mentioned in other comments, session recovery and much better performance. The only things I can think of o…

The most important benefit for me is the "Hot key" feature. I used to have Kuake back in my Linux days, and loved it. It's so much more convenient that having many different screens, and switching between them via "Cmd-Tab". It's gotten to the point where I very rarely open dedicated windows, unless I'm doing some serious debugging or so.

For those who don't know about the hot key; I press "Ctrl-~" to have a terminal screen dropdown from the top of the screen. You can have any number of tabs and splits there. Pressing the same combination again closes it.

The neat thing is I know I can access the terminal with the same single keystroke, no matter which app I am using. Does Terminal.app has this feature?

Re: ITerm2 2.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Naive question, but I keep trying iTerm and not being able to quite figure out why I should switch. In the mid-2000s it was a much better program than Terminal.app, but that doesn't seem to have been true for quite some time. Terminal.app has tabs, 256-color mode, themes, full screen support, and as people have mentioned in other comments, session recovery and much better performance. The only things I can think of o…

The most important benefit for me is the "Hot key" feature. I used to have Kuake back in my Linux days, and loved it. It's so much more convenient that having many different screens, and switching between them via "Cmd-Tab". It's gotten to the point where I very rarely open dedicated windows, unless I'm doing some serious debugging or so. For those who don't know about the hot key; I press "Ctrl-~" to have a terminal…

This is exactly why I started using iTerm. You and I even use the same key combination! It is so convenient that whenever I use others' machines, I try to bring down the visor and get frustrated when nothing happens.

Terminal.app can do this with the help of TotalTerminal. I used to use that, but switched over to iTerm for the greater degree of customization.

Re: ITerm2 2.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Naive question, but I keep trying iTerm and not being able to quite figure out why I should switch. In the mid-2000s it was a much better program than Terminal.app, but that doesn't seem to have been true for quite some time. Terminal.app has tabs, 256-color mode, themes, full screen support, and as people have mentioned in other comments, session recovery and much better performance. The only things I can think of o…

The most important benefit for me is the "Hot key" feature. I used to have Kuake back in my Linux days, and loved it. It's so much more convenient that having many different screens, and switching between them via "Cmd-Tab". It's gotten to the point where I very rarely open dedicated windows, unless I'm doing some serious debugging or so. For those who don't know about the hot key; I press "Ctrl-~" to have a terminal…

http://totalterminal.binaryage.com/

Re: ITerm2 2.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Naive question, but I keep trying iTerm and not being able to quite figure out why I should switch. In the mid-2000s it was a much better program than Terminal.app, but that doesn't seem to have been true for quite some time. Terminal.app has tabs, 256-color mode, themes, full screen support, and as people have mentioned in other comments, session recovery and much better performance. The only things I can think of o…

The most important benefit for me is the "Hot key" feature. I used to have Kuake back in my Linux days, and loved it. It's so much more convenient that having many different screens, and switching between them via "Cmd-Tab". It's gotten to the point where I very rarely open dedicated windows, unless I'm doing some serious debugging or so. For those who don't know about the hot key; I press "Ctrl-~" to have a terminal…

There is a tool named TotalTerminal (formerly "Visor") for the Mac which extends Terminal.app and does exactly this. I even have control-~ mapped to the behaviour. It seems pretty configurable, and hooks nicely into the prefs window of Terminal itself. You can hit cmd-opt-F to temporarily switch the current Terminal into full-screen mode, in case you need to delve into a particular task.

Screenshot: http://imgur.com/LiYdTu2 Prefs: http://imgur.com/YCDROa3

Re: ITerm2 2.0

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I'm still using version 1 of iTerm because it has the side dock menu, which allows me to maintain a list of the various servers I'd want to connect to, and allows me to close sublists I don't need to see.

The last time I looked at iTerm2 it had a separate window where you had to TYPE the name of the server you wanted, which is WAY more work than pointing and clicking a single name in a side list.

The developers seemed to think the old side dock was bad and refused to add it back in.

Re: ITerm2 2.0

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post #80

ITerm is great. It really is. But I wish more time was spent on optimizations. People these days seem to forget that terminals are often used for displaying huge amounts of rapidly scrolling text and that speed is of paramount importance. To put this in perspective, my computer has two CPUs with 4 cores each, 24GB RAM, a graphics card with 1600 Stream Processing Units (engine running at 850MHz) and 1GB of RAM, and ye…

I did a lot of work on performance which you can see in the nightly builds; it was too risky for the 2.0 schedule. We now parse the input stream in a separate thread from where it is rendered. That being said, while the refresh rate is probably lower than it was on your '386, the throughput is undoubtedly higher. If you'd like a higher refresh rate, it's a trivial tweak to a single constant, but in general throughput…

Yes, throughput is what I'm really after, refresh rate is secondary (still nice, but secondary).

It's great to hear that this work is happening, thank you! And also thank you for all the work, because gripes aside, iTerm2 is the best tool out there.

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