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Re: Net neutrality

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post #8

> I would love to see a world where the companies that own last-mile infrastructure are required to lease the lines to any ISP the end consumer wants; this would create a competitive market and mostly eliminate the problem. Devil's advocate, why would any company want to be the infrastructure-owning company then? Aren't they in the worst spot?

Not really. With the burden of regulation also comes the impossibility of going out of business.

Re: Net neutrality

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post #8

> I would love to see a world where the companies that own last-mile infrastructure are required to lease the lines to any ISP the end consumer wants; this would create a competitive market and mostly eliminate the problem. Devil's advocate, why would any company want to be the infrastructure-owning company then? Aren't they in the worst spot?

Why would any company want to sell electricity or water? This is not a new problem. Let's stop pretending it is.

Re: Net neutrality

#13
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Re: Net neutrality

#15
Really interested in hearing more about sama's meeting with Wheeler... Did he discuss concerns about putting new rules in place that would not withstand court challenge (i.e. the "commercially reasonable" standard)? Any additional creative ways to help him push Title II classification beyond commenting and contacting congress?

Also, you describe a last-mile competitive scenario that is very similar to the energy deregulation that recently occurred in New Jersey. I think it has produced pretty good results for customers. Here's a good/concise explanation of how they did it:

http://www.njelectricity.org/about-electric-choice/

Re: Net neutrality

#16
post #5

"I have met with the Chairman of the FCC, Tom Wheeler, and I believe he is a good actor that wants to do the right thing. But he is fighting against very powerful lobbyists and large companies that want to disrupt the freedom of the Internet." "Prior to working at the FCC, Wheeler worked as a venture capitalist and lobbyist for the cable and wireless industry" -Wikipedia Really? Somehow I doubt that he has turned a f…

Rule of thumb. Assume people are operating fairly until proven otherwise. If you meet someone and treat them as a good actor, it becomes easier for them to BE one.

Truth is he is probably a politician. He will do whatever he thinks is going to get him the most support. So if you can convince him that is going against his former friends, he will do that. (180 flips in policy are very common in politicians.)

Re: Net neutrality

#17
post #7

I've been fairly on the fence regarding net neutrality, and this article turned me around on the issue. Previously, it was nearly impossible for me to reconcile a valid reason for regulating the telcos. It's their pipes, they should be able to route it however they want. And aside from that, we've never had net neutrality -- there's no ISP I've ever used that allows unfettered upstream access to port 80 from my home,…

"It's their traffic, they should be able to route it however they want"

It's their pipes, not their traffic. A minor distinction, but an important one. :)

Re: Net neutrality

#18
post #8

> I would love to see a world where the companies that own last-mile infrastructure are required to lease the lines to any ISP the end consumer wants; this would create a competitive market and mostly eliminate the problem. Devil's advocate, why would any company want to be the infrastructure-owning company then? Aren't they in the worst spot?

The government did this in the 1800s with railroads and various entities still built a shit ton of them.

Re: Net neutrality

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> I would love to see a world where the companies that own last-mile infrastructure are required to lease the lines to any ISP the end consumer wants; this would create a competitive market and mostly eliminate the problem. [2]

This is pretty much how it works in the UK; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openreach

It does seem to work pretty well.. there are a wide variety of operators and prices are very low. If I had to pick out common criticisms, Openreach can take their time if you have to deal with them directly (getting a line installed in a new office or apartment can take a few weeks), and there seems to be very limited innovation in the last mile - even in London it's hard to get more than 20mbps, and many people in rural areas are stuck with a crappy DSL line at 2mbps or so.

Re: Net neutrality

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post #8

> I would love to see a world where the companies that own last-mile infrastructure are required to lease the lines to any ISP the end consumer wants; this would create a competitive market and mostly eliminate the problem. Devil's advocate, why would any company want to be the infrastructure-owning company then? Aren't they in the worst spot?

Why would any company want to sell electricity or water? This is not a new problem. Let's stop pretending it is.

You don't demand CAGR of 20% or more of your electricity or water supply.
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