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Re: Orbcomm OG2 Falcon 9 Satellite Launch

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I'll admit I do not regularly follow space launches but I am amazed at the various places that they have installed video feeds. Seeing the first stage drop off was incredible.

What's a first stage drop off?

AKA stage separation.

The first stage must provide a lot of thrust to get into lower gravity, so it's quite heavy with fuel and has 9 engines. After the fuel in that stage is expended, the rocket splits in two, dropping that first stage back to earth. The top half of the rocket contains additional fuel and whatever payload the rocket is delivering (including potentially an additional stage + engine) and is powered with a single engine.

Here's an older video showing the separation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4lOJjKGoIY#t=193 (Goto: 3:15 if the link doesn't work)

The first stage that drops off is the one that SpaceX is attempting to recapture. Historically, that stage just lands in the ocean and is either scuttled or must be extensively cleaned and retrofit in order to fly again. SpaceX figures if you leave a bit of extra fuel in the tanks, you can land it vertically at the same site it took off from, and save yourself the time and expense associated with cleaning and retrieving it.

This would be very valuable since the rocket engines are typically the most expensive components of a launch, and the first stage has 9 such engines:

http://i.imgur.com/QzrPePS.png

Re: Orbcomm OG2 Falcon 9 Satellite Launch

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Is this the re-usable launch vehicle, i.e. the one that re-enters the atmosphere and lands itself upright?

Essentially yes. They won't be able to reuse this particular vehicle, but it will return and hover over the ocean for them to retrieve. They'll recover it and study the results to make the next one even better. Real reusability is probably at least a year away.

Re: Orbcomm OG2 Falcon 9 Satellite Launch

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Is this the re-usable launch vehicle, i.e. the one that re-enters the atmosphere and lands itself upright?

Yes, the first stage has landing legs. They're planning to deploy the landing legs over water and attempt to hover the booster just before it hits the surface.

Re: Orbcomm OG2 Falcon 9 Satellite Launch

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's a first stage drop off?

AKA stage separation. The first stage must provide a lot of thrust to get into lower gravity, so it's quite heavy with fuel and has 9 engines. After the fuel in that stage is expended, the rocket splits in two, dropping that first stage back to earth. The top half of the rocket contains additional fuel and whatever payload the rocket is delivering (including potentially an additional stage + engine) and is powered wi…

It isn't higher gravity they're overcoming with the first stage, but rather the much higher atmospheric pressure near the surface. Gravity in orbit is almost identical to gravity at the surface.

Re: Orbcomm OG2 Falcon 9 Satellite Launch

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Wow I can't believe this finally launched. So far so good! And of course, the most exciting thing about this is the return attempt of the F9 first stage core. I don't think that'll be covered in the webcast but we'll certainly get video of it later. MECO successful. Edit: r/spacex has good updates regarding the landing attempt [T+27m]: Elon's jet and NASA plane circling a particular area... http://www.reddit.com/r/sp…

I wonder if they have tracking planes or a spotter out on the water. After all this bad press and the violent ocean churn from the last attempt, it would be nice to get a money shot of the vehicle hovering over the water.

You mean like this one (from the last launch)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjZ33C9JZTM

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