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Re: This maze looks familiar

#11

Post by joshstrange »

chton wrote: post #9

Hypothetical question: is it possible that they did not copy it? The author here indicates that the original maze was generated by software, maybe Kraft stumbled upon the same algorithm, or a close variation of it (considering the minor differences between the two)? Obviously, this is very out-of-left-field and I don't believe it either, but it's not impossible that Kraft didn't plagiarise anything.

Seeing how the author says he developed said algorithm and the maze is from Book #1 Maze #1 I don't think that's at all possible.

Re: This maze looks familiar

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Post by dspillett »

> If you’re gonna steal a maze, you might want to try stealing from maze book #47, and do a horizontal swap on it before you rotate it 90 degrees. That’ll slow me down some…

And now the next maze to be copied by someone will be that one, and they'll argue that this statement is permission!

Re: This maze looks familiar

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Post by hawleyal »

chton wrote: post #9

Hypothetical question: is it possible that they did not copy it? The author here indicates that the original maze was generated by software, maybe Kraft stumbled upon the same algorithm, or a close variation of it (considering the minor differences between the two)? Obviously, this is very out-of-left-field and I don't believe it either, but it's not impossible that Kraft didn't plagiarise anything.

It is impossible.

Re: This maze looks familiar

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Post by dspillett »

ZoF wrote: post #6

Heh,that poor miserable employee who probably thought nothing of copying a cool maze off the Internet.(Not to imply that makes it any less illegal) That's certainly got to be interesting/validating for the op though (albeit simultaneously violating/annoying). Definitely curious to hear how Kraft responds; if op is willing to share even more about something he shouldn't have had to deal with in the first place that is…

> who probably thought nothing of

Working for a media related company or similar he will have been told not to do that sort of thing, officially at least (it'll be in the company handbook which he'll have signed a document stating he has read and understood) - so yes if he is still there he'll get some of the fallout.

The company should have checks and balances on such things though, so they can't blame a sole individual and wash their hands of it without recall of the item and/or recompense to the creator they've copied.

Re: This maze looks familiar

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Post by chton »

hawleyal wrote: post #14
chton wrote: post #9

Hypothetical question: is it possible that they did not copy it? The author here indicates that the original maze was generated by software, maybe Kraft stumbled upon the same algorithm, or a close variation of it (considering the minor differences between the two)? Obviously, this is very out-of-left-field and I don't believe it either, but it's not impossible that Kraft didn't plagiarise anything.

It is impossible.

Mind elaborating why? I'm not versed in maze generation, but I am a software dev, and reinventing an existing algorithm does happen. It might be very unlikely in this case, but I'd just like to know why.

Re: This maze looks familiar

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Post by chton »

joshstrange wrote: post #11
chton wrote: post #9

Hypothetical question: is it possible that they did not copy it? The author here indicates that the original maze was generated by software, maybe Kraft stumbled upon the same algorithm, or a close variation of it (considering the minor differences between the two)? Obviously, this is very out-of-left-field and I don't believe it either, but it's not impossible that Kraft didn't plagiarise anything.

Seeing how the author says he developed said algorithm and the maze is from Book #1 Maze #1 I don't think that's at all possible.

That's a very good point, but maybe it was #1 because it was the default case, the simplest to generate?

Re: This maze looks familiar

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Post by mkesper »

chton wrote: post #9

Hypothetical question: is it possible that they did not copy it? The author here indicates that the original maze was generated by software, maybe Kraft stumbled upon the same algorithm, or a close variation of it (considering the minor differences between the two)? Obviously, this is very out-of-left-field and I don't believe it either, but it's not impossible that Kraft didn't plagiarise anything.

Under some jurisdictions (eg Germany), I'm not sure whether the output of a program is copyrightable at all. Your software, yes, but probably not the output.

Re: This maze looks familiar

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Post by JetSpiegel »

bshimmin wrote: post #4

Reminds me of Roger Penrose and toilet paper plagiarism: http://web.archive.org/web/20050312084035/http://www.parasco...

This deserves a submission.

> "So often we read of very large companies riding rough-shod over small businesses or individuals," said David Bradley, director of Pentaplex. "But when it comes to the population of Great Britain being invited by a multi-national to wipe their bottoms on what appears to be the work of a Knight of the Realm without his permission, then a last stand must be made."

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