Also over 50% of violent crimes go unsolved and over 80% of property crimes. Looks like there could be more arrests if they solved more crimes.
Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, being acquitted is meaningless to you and should negatively impact future employment. Noted.
Forget acquitted, what if charges are never brought in the first place? Should the Nixons of this world have a right to be forgotten?
If we're talking about the EU version of the right, it explicitly excludes public figures.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any sort of citation or reference to back up your claim that a newspaper would be liable for a murder due to printing an address in the US? Wouldn't everyone be liable for everything if "someone used a fact you published to commit a crime" was the standard? In the US, libel and slander laws can't be used to prevent people from saying things which they can prove to be true or factual.
The most famous case is probably Neal Horsley, who was found liable (though only civilly) for publishing the home addresses of abortion doctors, some of whom were later harmed. He was sued for contributing to the attacks and lost. These were correct addresses and it was true that they were abortion doctors, but a court nonetheless considered their publication to constitute an implied threat of harm to the doctors in…
Getting nailed in civil court is a completely different animal than criminal charges. You can even get nailed in civil courts for things that criminal courts found you not guilty of (see: OJ Simpson).
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
This has been dubbed the "school-to-prison pipeline." It's exacerbated by the fact that many schools now have police officers permanently stationed at the school, which leads to a "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" problem. It also contributes to the racial disparity because predominantly black schools are more likely to have a police officer than predominantly white schools.
This was a sensitive topic while I was in high school in Colorado. I don't think the school had a majority, but the largest groups were white and hispanic groups. We always had at least 1 permanent police officer heading a group of a couple of people who could be either police or security. Nominally this was a response to incidents throughout the rest of the state such as Columbine, but in reality the purpose was to…
> in most schools marijuana is still banned (like tobacco products)
s/most/all
and that won't change any time soon
Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23
#175Laws in the US are far too strict. I am one of the people that are covered by this statistic, I was arrested around age 16. For curfew. Curfew, the law that says you can't be outside after an arbitrarily dictated time. Absolutely ridiculous. For what it is worth--my record has been "expunged" and this arrest has not affected my adult life at all.
Philadelphia instituted a youth curfew because local highschool kids developed a interest in flash mobs. Not flash mobs where lots of people in a train station start dancing all of a sudden, but rather flash mobs where they all start texting all of their friends that they are going to all meet at 15th and South Street in 10 minutes to riot and loot. I'll grant that in most cases youth curfews are probably senseless,…
If it were adults, would you be as casual about people being told to stay in their homes because of some troublemakers?
Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23
#176I would love to see a breakdown of what they were most arrested for.
Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
The most famous case is probably Neal Horsley, who was found liable (though only civilly) for publishing the home addresses of abortion doctors, some of whom were later harmed. He was sued for contributing to the attacks and lost. These were correct addresses and it was true that they were abortion doctors, but a court nonetheless considered their publication to constitute an implied threat of harm to the doctors in…
Getting nailed in civil court is a completely different animal than criminal charges. You can even get nailed in civil courts for things that criminal courts found you not guilty of (see: OJ Simpson).
But that's what the discussion here is about as well. Google's "right to be forgotten" loss was also a civil case, not a criminal one.
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
The vagueness of the laws are a different problem. If the laws were just vague then you could have judges interpreting them in favor of defendants as often as prosecutors. If you had to point to one thing as the cause of all this, it is likely to be the privatization of criminal justice. As soon as you have a private prison or a defense contractor selling military-grade equipment to civilian police forces, you create…
Only 6% of american prisons are private.
What point are you trying to make? It's not like public prisons send lobbyists to Congress to refute arguments being made by private prison lobbyists.
If 6% of your cells are cancerous you're in deep trouble.
Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23
#179There are far too many laws in the u.s. and you can never know when you're breaking a law. And enforcement is often arbitrary and based on if the police want to harass/check you, or if they want to pile charges on top of another charge to get you to deal on a plea. Some countries view laws as a failure of society. You don't pass a law until your society has failed in that way, and instead you use social norms/control…
> enforcement is often arbitrary and based on if the police want to harass/check you
This. Absolutely this. So many laws are only enforced if and when you've irritated a cop. There are so many laws in the US about so many stupid things that they can ALWAYS bust you for something if they want to. Always.
There's probably a handful of things they could charge me with on my drive home.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did he arrest you or give you a citation?
Receiving a citation is a non-custodial arrest. edit just to make it clear: This is not my opinion. This is the legal definition. The study includes citations as arrests. This is why they make sure to point out that they do not include minor traffic offenses.
ok, that's a little weird. I got a ticket once for cutting through a park after dark. I would never have considered that being arrested, but hurray, today I learned I'm part of the 40%. I have also received a ticket for speeding, which all things considered, was a more serious offense/penalty. It's weird that the speeding ticket is excluded but not the walking ticket.