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Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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I really want to see a heat map of this phenomena. I have a feeling there is strong geographic and urban/rural differences here. I would also like to see the percentage of the population that has been arrested by age.

This statistic is definitely not representative of where I live, that being said I don't disbelieve it, I just want to understand the details.

P.S. I am also disgusted when children are charged as adults. Maybe (probably) there needs to be a middle classification of age legally, but lacking that, it is better to error by being to lenient for the youth. The other day I saw a 12 year old girl was being changed with murder, as an adult- ridiculous!

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Most striking are the race differences revealed in the study, Brame says. In particular, the research points to a higher prevalence of arrest among black males and little race variation in arrest rates among females....

By age 23, 49 percent of black males, 44 percent of Hispanic males and 38 percent of white males have been arrested....

By age 23, arrest rates were 20 percent for white females and 18 percent and 16 percent for Hispanic and black females, respectively.

By age 23:

- Black males have been arrested at a 29% higher rate than white males.

- White females have been arrested at a 25% higher rate than black females.

While the absolute rate of especially black male arrests is troubling, I find the racial differences in both genders striking and particularly surprising in the female case.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Sounds bad, but assuming an arrest under 23 can happen any time between the ages of, say, 7 and 22, that's actually 2.7% in any given year, or roughly 1 in every 40 male children. It almost certainly points to police officers arresting children en masse in order to discover the real perpetrator rather than any child criminality epidemic.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the arrests are not evenly distributed betweeen the ages of 7 and 22. In fact I'd guess that a statistically insignificant number of arrests occur before the age of 10, and that they cluster around 16-22.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

i did initially interpret it as "of all youth arrests worldwide, 40% take place in the usa", but realised the number was probably a bit high for that.

The current title says "Over 40% of all young men have been arrested in the USA". This can easily be interpreted as 40% of all young men in the whole world have been arrested in the USA. Instead, it should say "Over 40% of all young men in the USA have been arrested".

The actual article title: Study: Half of black males, 40 percent of white males arrested by age 23 seems perfectly adequate ehre. I think HN readers can see the big underlying issue rather than being sidetracked by the racial disparity (which is also important, but not the main story).

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Most striking are the race differences revealed in the study, Brame says. In particular, the research points to a higher prevalence of arrest among black males and little race variation in arrest rates among females. ... By age 23, 49 percent of black males, 44 percent of Hispanic males and 38 percent of white males have been arrested. ... By age 23, arrest rates were 20 percent for white females and 18 percent and 1…

It's interesting the article downplays the discrepancy in the female arrest rates based on race.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: "At age 18, arrest rates were 12 percent for white females and 11.8 percent and 11.9 percent for Hispanic and black females, respectively. By age 23, arrest rates were 20 percent for white females and 18 percent and 16 percent for Hispanic and black females, respectively."

The parent comment is clearly referring to the HN headline, not the article itself. Since young men do not massively outnumber young women, it is not the case that 40% of all US youths have been arrested.

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Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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I really want to see a heat map of this phenomena. I have a feeling there is strong geographic and urban/rural differences here. I would also like to see the percentage of the population that has been arrested by age. This statistic is definitely not representative of where I live, that being said I don't disbelieve it, I just want to understand the details. P.S. I am also disgusted when children are charged as adult…

It's pretty hard to imagine you can get figures like this without it being prevalent in urban areas.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Nearly half of black males and almost 40 percent of white males in the U.S. are arrested by age 23, which can hurt their ability to find work, go to school and participate fully in their communities. An arrest by itself, without an accompanying conviction, cannot be used to deny employment. 1. http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/arrest_conviction.cfm#I

That just means it won't be cited as a reason by an interviewer or in a HR letter. But your name and face ina mugshot gallery are definitely not going to improve your prospects.
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