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Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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post #53

If this is even close to correct (and I'm betting it is) we have a serious problem in the country. The solution seems obvious. Stop arresting for minor drug offenses and victimless crimes like underage alcohol possession. Watch the number go back down to reasonable levels.

Even if we could just stop charging people with felonies for victimless crimes, then that would be a good start.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

#62
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is possible to get local papers kicked out of Google search results for things like arrests that did not lead to a conviction [which honestly is a 90% solution]. 90% solutions are good enough.

That also sounds 90% good enough to make the media useless. A politician doesn't like an article about his corrupt behavior? Well, he wasn't convicted for anything in the article, so away it goes!

So, being acquitted is meaningless to you and should negatively impact future employment.

Noted.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

#63
post #52
post #18

One key point with this study is that it only covers people who were born between 1980 and 1984, and follows them through their lives. The summary articles tend to ignore that, and imply the same stats apply to people born in all years.

Do you have reason to believe that people born during that window are particularly jail-prone?

A large number of other reasons than your suggestion exist which may alter that rate for other cohorts: the quantity of offenses which allow arrest may have changed, the attitude of law enforcement may be more or less lax, etc.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

#64
post #18

One key point with this study is that it only covers people who were born between 1980 and 1984, and follows them through their lives. The summary articles tend to ignore that, and imply the same stats apply to people born in all years.

That's very important to acknowledge, since it means that any and all public policy shifts over the last decade are discounted by this methodology.

Of course, it's still an alarming statistic, but I'd hope it's been going down (along with crime rates) since this data was collected.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

#65
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ya, stuff like that is why we need a right to be forgotten in the US. People tend to see an arrest and leap to conclusions. I say this as a person who has never been arrested. :/

They're the extreme edge cases, but I'm sure George Zimmerman and Casey Anthony would agree 100%

But it is a publicly known fact they were acquitted.

Alot of these kids never have it published that they were acquitted anywhere notable. :/

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

#66
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do arrest records show up in background checks by employers?

In Canada, at least, background checks can reveal attempted suicides and dropped charges, unfortunately: http://www.therecord.com/news-story/4538747-names-of-420-000...

Charges show up on background checks in the US as well. Even if there was no conviction.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

#67
post #43

I find this frankly implausible. What percentage of people you know have been arrested? I'm guessing very small (even assuming that many hide it and so you're knowledge is substantially skewed). So maybe that's because of your high/squeaky-clean socio-economic class? No: imagine yourself in any class you care to. Unless that class is much, much larger than your "real" class, then it would have to have an astronomical…

Not implausible at all. I'm probably in the squeaky clean category. On a day of a meteor shower, I went with some friends to take pictures of the sky. A park ranger arrested us, for being in a national park after dark. After arresting us, he spent 5 mins talking on the radio with some other ranger, then spent 5 mins writing a citation. Paid it in the mail a few weeks later, never heard of it again. It doesn't take mu…

Did he arrest you or give you a citation?

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

#68
post #58

I think that this trend, at least in part, has been influenced by a change in the way that we treat adolescent crime. For example, even when I was a kid (early 90's) you would not get arrested for getting into a fist fight at school. Nowadays, bam; call the cops. Get caught with some pot? Arrested. Get caught performing some petty vandalization? Arrested. Get caught at a party drinking as a minor? Arrested. We arrest…

> I think that this trend, at least in part, has been influenced by a change in the way that we treat adolescent crime. For example, even when I was a kid (early 90's) you would not get arrested for getting into a fist fight at school. Nowadays, bam; call the cops.

Well, the people in this study were born in the early 80s. So I'm not sure any modern shifts that you point to are the distinctive factor.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

#69
post #54

Sounds bad, but assuming an arrest under 23 can happen any time between the ages of, say, 7 and 22, that's actually 2.7% in any given year, or roughly 1 in every 40 male children. It almost certainly points to police officers arresting children en masse in order to discover the real perpetrator rather than any child criminality epidemic.

Most people consider it pretty bad to be arrested at any point in their life. 2.7% per year is also a pretty awful number considering.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

#70
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything that might make someone unemployable that didn't result in a conviction or other defeat in court.

I should have a right to make people forget that I have a bad attitude, never shower and am prone to cursing anyone in my vicinity?

The topic is arrests.

The fact you never shower is not going to get you arrested.

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