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Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Post by tdfx »

coryl wrote: post #3
byoung2 wrote: post #2

Nearly half of black males and almost 40 percent of white males in the U.S. are arrested by age 23, which can hurt their ability to find work, go to school and participate fully in their communities. An arrest by itself, without an accompanying conviction, cannot be used to deny employment. 1. http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/arrest_conviction.cfm#I

Do arrest records show up in background checks by employers?

If it goes to court, in most jurisdictions the disposition of the case will be available in a standard background check. For example, if you were charged with resisting arrest and found not guilty, it would still show up but also show "not guilty". Good luck explaining that to an employer, even if you did nothing wrong (and the courts confirmed it).

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Post by dublinben »

opendais wrote: post #5
_delirium wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Legally, no, but it's getting common for employers to Google-background-investigate potential hires, and arrest notices can come up in such searches, which employers may or may not put unofficial weight on. Though you might be better off in a big city. In smaller towns, this kind of administrative stuff ends up published: local papers, or even the sheriff's office directly, often put out an arrest blotter with the na…

Ya, stuff like that is why we need a right to be forgotten in the US. People tend to see an arrest and leap to conclusions. I say this as a person who has never been arrested. :/

The 'right to be forgotten' is impossible to enforce. We just need to be more forgiving.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Post by fredgrott »

byoung2 wrote: post #2

Nearly half of black males and almost 40 percent of white males in the U.S. are arrested by age 23, which can hurt their ability to find work, go to school and participate fully in their communities. An arrest by itself, without an accompanying conviction, cannot be used to deny employment. 1. http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/arrest_conviction.cfm#I

not mention that laws to allow erasure of minor offenses differ per state

in my state you can erase misdemeanor B and C class offenses after 5 years if 5 years no arrests

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Post by x1798DE »

sudont wrote: post #10
waqf wrote: post #8

Clarification: over 40% of young men in the US have been arrested. (It is ambiguous whether "youths" refers to both sexes.) (It is also possible to interpret the headline as saying that 40% of all youths worldwide have been in the US at some point, during which they were arrested, but I doubt many people were confused by that.)

From the article: "At age 18, arrest rates were 12 percent for white females and 11.8 percent and 11.9 percent for Hispanic and black females, respectively. By age 23, arrest rates were 20 percent for white females and 18 percent and 16 percent for Hispanic and black females, respectively."

The parent comment is clearly referring to the HN headline, not the article itself. Since young men do not massively outnumber young women, it is not the case that 40% of all US youths have been arrested.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Post by pavanky »

dublinben wrote: post #12
opendais wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ya, stuff like that is why we need a right to be forgotten in the US. People tend to see an arrest and leap to conclusions. I say this as a person who has never been arrested. :/

The 'right to be forgotten' is impossible to enforce. We just need to be more forgiving.

The right to be forgotten lies in a gray zone. Who is going to be the judge of what needs to be forgotten and what can stay public ?

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Post by astrodust »

timmclean wrote: post #6
coryl wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do arrest records show up in background checks by employers?

In Canada, at least, background checks can reveal attempted suicides and dropped charges, unfortunately: http://www.therecord.com/news-story/4538747-names-of-420-000...

The dropped charges is the worst of this.

How many people that were "kettled" during the G20 protests, despite not actually participating in the protests, nor ever being charged with anything, now have a police record?

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Post by pertinhower »

I find this frankly implausible. What percentage of people you know have been arrested? I'm guessing very small (even assuming that many hide it and so you're knowledge is substantially skewed). So maybe that's because of your high/squeaky-clean socio-economic class? No: imagine yourself in any class you care to. Unless that class is much, much larger than your "real" class, then it would have to have an astronomical arrest rate (80%?) to compensate.

I wanna see the data.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Post by sanj »

byoung2 wrote: post #2

Nearly half of black males and almost 40 percent of white males in the U.S. are arrested by age 23, which can hurt their ability to find work, go to school and participate fully in their communities. An arrest by itself, without an accompanying conviction, cannot be used to deny employment. 1. http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/arrest_conviction.cfm#I

"However, an employer may make an employment decision based on the conduct underlying an arrest if the conduct makes the individual unfit for the position in question."

Which is more than enough wiggle room.

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