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Why is Netflix Buffering? Dispelling the Congestion Myth

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Re: Why is Netflix Buffering? Dispelling the Congestion Myth

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Post by seanflyon »

idiot900 wrote: post #8

A well written PR piece, but no new insights here. Verizon feels it is not Verizon's job as an Internet service provider to provide adequate service to parts of the Internet that its customers are paying them to access. This wouldn't be a problem if broadband access were actually a competitive market - customers would simply switch to a provider that had taken the initiative to give its customers what they want.

Thank you. While almost all the comments are saying the same thing, I think you stated it best.

Re: Why is Netflix Buffering? Dispelling the Congestion Myth

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Post by jrs235 »

Verizon's customers request an unprecedented amount of data and traffic from Netflix.

This is Verizon's problem, not Netflix's.

Verizon should be working with Netflix on an amicable solution to perhaps cache data inside Verizon's network... O What do you know! Netflix already has a program for that: https://www.netflix.com/openconnect

Re: Why is Netflix Buffering? Dispelling the Congestion Myth

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Post by ssmoot »

skelsey wrote: post #18
sergiotapia wrote: post #3

It's so strange, I live in Bolivia and Netflix never buffers for me at all. I have a laughable 200kbps real download speed (1768kbps plan) and I only wait for Netflix to load for about 2 seconds on my PS4 and off I go watching on 480SD quality. I would expect the US to be much much better.

No one in the US wants to watch 480 video.

I only buy HD on iTunes, but I only watch SD for 99% of my TV shows. Movies it depends. If it's a kid's movie we've seen already: SD. Also if it's the latest action rental: SD. I rarely rent in HD unless cinematography plays a large role in the film.

480P looks surprisingly good on iTunes. Much better than DVD typically. I'm OK with that for the most part.

OTOH Netflix's auto-scaling is clearly the future.

Re: Why is Netflix Buffering? Dispelling the Congestion Myth

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Post by danielweber »

msandford wrote: post #54

From the article: "Netflix sends out an unprecedented amount of traffic." YES! Yes they do! But Netflix doesn't send that traffic for fun and giggles, just to swamp your network and clog up the port. They do it because YOUR CUSTOMERS HAVE ASKED THEM TO and you, Verizon, you duplicitous shitbag, have SOLD THAT CAPABILITY to your customers. They have LITERALLY PAID you to successfully receive up to 75Mbps worth of traf…

I almost upvoted this.

Re: Why is Netflix Buffering? Dispelling the Congestion Myth

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Post by msandford »

trothamel wrote: post #48

It's always kind of strange to me that Verizon only wants to provide settlement-free peering "where the relative traffic flows between an IP network provider and us remain roughly equal". If you were to take that at face value, it means that Verizon would happy to provide free peering if only Netflix modified its client so it uploaded a number of random bytes equal to the size of the stream it was downloading. But th…

No, that's fucking GENIUS.

Please God, if there is a God, let someone from Netflix read this parent post and implement such a thing to take the wind right out of Verizon's sails.

Re: Why is Netflix Buffering? Dispelling the Congestion Myth

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Post by danielweber »

trothamel wrote: post #48

It's always kind of strange to me that Verizon only wants to provide settlement-free peering "where the relative traffic flows between an IP network provider and us remain roughly equal". If you were to take that at face value, it means that Verizon would happy to provide free peering if only Netflix modified its client so it uploaded a number of random bytes equal to the size of the stream it was downloading. But th…

It's a holdover from the old days, when one side of a peering agreement very logically didn't want to carry all the packets of another provider while the other provider doesn't do much to help you in return.

Re: Why is Netflix Buffering? Dispelling the Congestion Myth

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Post by danielweber »

sergiotapia wrote: post #58
y4mi wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you actually watch below 720p? i'd switch back to downloads for HD before watching something with that resolution.

Honestly though, I can't really tell the huge difference from my couch. I guess my TV isn't big enough to actually notice. Sure my blurays play at higher framerates and look crisp, but I don't mind watching 480 at all.

I sympathize with you, but realize that there are a lot of video geeks here who are baffled some of us plebes still have SD televisions.

Re: Why is Netflix Buffering? Dispelling the Congestion Myth

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Post by Florin_Andrei »

cs702 wrote: post #51

Verizon is blaming Netflix for sending "an unprecedented amount of traffic" and "not taking steps to ensure that there is adequate capacity for their traffic to enter" Verizon's network. The thing is, Netflix is NOT pushing any of that traffic to Verizon. It is Verizon's customers who are pulling that traffic from NetFlix -- and they are paying Verizon to deliver it !!! More here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id…

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Re: Why is Netflix Buffering? Dispelling the Congestion Myth

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Post by swasheck »

lostcolony wrote: post #44
skelsey wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one in the US wants to watch 480 video.

I do. Comcast. Data cap. Of course, what I would -prefer- is to ditch Comcast, and yes, watch at a higher resolution, and I will at the first available opportunity. But can't. Because monopoly.

nonsense. there is no monopoly in capitalism.

/sarcasm

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