Live data from Hacker News

Looks by Dr. Dre

subtraction.com

21–30 of 123 posts

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

#21
I think the author is missing something important: There is greater inventory flexibility with headphone internals than iPhone internals.

Many different and very advanced technologies go into an iPhone. Most recently, the new fingerprint scanner was holding back the 5s. Every wrong assumption about color demand meant that an iPhone sale was delayed. (Assuming that it was even the correct storage size.) It's a world apart from speakers.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

#22
post #17

This article lost me at the part suggesting that Dre Beats are premium headphones. Having listened to a few different sets of these "cool" headphones I can personally think they are overpriced crap, don't think they are worth more than £20-30 tops simply based on audio quality. People are simply buying them as a fashion item!

If I never heard someone shit on Dre Beats again it would be too soon. We all get it. Dre Beats are crap. Your tastes are better than the masses.

This has literally nothing to do with the article, and even if it wasn't played out it would be silly semantics. They're priced like premium headphones, so that makes them premium.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

#23
It is so amazing to watch the attention that people give Apple's business decisions. Seriously, how much their actions get read into is unparalleled.

Any other company, we'd just say "yup, they bought a headphone company, and now they'll be selling some more/different headphones" and then we'd move on. But with Apple, it just must, must represent some form of tidal shift.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

#24
post #17

This article lost me at the part suggesting that Dre Beats are premium headphones. Having listened to a few different sets of these "cool" headphones I can personally think they are overpriced crap, don't think they are worth more than £20-30 tops simply based on audio quality. People are simply buying them as a fashion item!

>This article lost me at the part suggesting that Dre Beats are premium headphones.

Premium is about price, as in "paid a premium". Dictionary.com definition #11: "of higher price or cost".

It also has the meaning of higher quality, but mostly associated with the price and exclusivity (or perceived exclusivity. Premium products, like shoes and clothing, can also be had by millions of people -- it's just that not everybody can afford them easily that makes them "premium").

So being overpriced is not really ar argument against it being "premium". If anything, it's the opposite.

>People are simply buying them as a fashion item!

The Beats are OK-ish sound wise, but not for audiophiles. Newer, more upmarket versions, are a little better sonically however.

Interestingly, they make for useful monitors if you are a musician, in the sense that tons of your listeners will use the same cans, so you get a sense of what the final master will sound for them.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

#25
post #2

The more closely you look at Beats, the more they make sense as a serious asset to a consumer electronics company, and the less plausible the "Apple just needed to get a streaming service off the ground" story is. Two more angles to consider: * Owning Beats puts Apple hardware on the heads of a huge fraction of every mobile user, whether they use iOS or not. Having a Beats brand affinity for those users makes it easi…

> Owning Beats puts Apple hardware on the heads of a huge fraction of every mobile user

You might be on to something here. What if Apple's plan is to make the headphone itself a network enabled device with access to the app store?

While headphones are currently 'dumb', there's no reason it has to continue to be the case. Network enabled watches. Network enabled headphones. Network enabled glasses. If Apple get's the leading brand in all these categories, then making the leap just suddenly became a lot easier.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

#26
post #17

This article lost me at the part suggesting that Dre Beats are premium headphones. Having listened to a few different sets of these "cool" headphones I can personally think they are overpriced crap, don't think they are worth more than £20-30 tops simply based on audio quality. People are simply buying them as a fashion item!

> People are simply buying them as a fashion item!

So... you're saying it's a great match for Apple?

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

#27
post #15
post #3

I find it hard to believe that apple couldn't make additional colors if they wanted. I don't think it's a lack of technological know how. They could pick that up without acquiring a entire additional company. Limited colors on the iphone or ipod make sense. For the most part, it's an item that stays in your pocket. I'm sure some people care about additional design choices, but most people solve this by buying a case…

I think you're right for the most part. Apple probably doesn't want tons of variation in their products, for brand recognition. How long does it take to recognize an Apple laptop? They come in only one style that is distinct from most other laptops. But as the author said briefly, if they are really releasing an iWatch, it would be different. It isn't an item that stays in your pocket, and the style would be one of t…

As a counterpoint, how long does it take to recognize a Beats headset? My guess is almost instant. The characteristic design is not entirely reliant on the colors of the plastic used.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

#28
While I don't disagree with anything in the article, I think it, and most commentators, are thinking too small.

When thinking about wearable computing, one big challenge is to take a small, weird-shaped form factor, like sunglasses or watches, and cram enough computer hardware in there to support all the features that people want.

Why not stick a computer in the headphones? Between the earmuffs and the headband, there's a lot more room to stick a computer into a set of Beats than there is in a wristwatch.

I can imagine being able to listen to the Beats music service using just the Beats headphones, and not even needing to connect them to a computer.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

#29
post #25
post #2

The more closely you look at Beats, the more they make sense as a serious asset to a consumer electronics company, and the less plausible the "Apple just needed to get a streaming service off the ground" story is. Two more angles to consider: * Owning Beats puts Apple hardware on the heads of a huge fraction of every mobile user, whether they use iOS or not. Having a Beats brand affinity for those users makes it easi…

> Owning Beats puts Apple hardware on the heads of a huge fraction of every mobile user You might be on to something here. What if Apple's plan is to make the headphone itself a network enabled device with access to the app store? While headphones are currently 'dumb', there's no reason it has to continue to be the case. Network enabled watches. Network enabled headphones. Network enabled glasses. If Apple get's the…

Maybe. Generally, though, I'm just saying: you should look at all the elements of the business: the promotion strategy, the user base, the product positioning, the distribution and sales channels, the supply chain (as Khoi Vinh points out), the integration story... and the competitive tensions in all those places. You can't just look at the feature/function/benefit table and make a snap judgement; the feature/function/benefit list of a billion dollar business is rarely the whole story.

Re: Looks by Dr. Dre

#30
post #17

This article lost me at the part suggesting that Dre Beats are premium headphones. Having listened to a few different sets of these "cool" headphones I can personally think they are overpriced crap, don't think they are worth more than £20-30 tops simply based on audio quality. People are simply buying them as a fashion item!

> People are simply buying them as a fashion item! So... you're saying it's a great match for Apple?

As a bit of a Apple fan boy I think it's a terrible match. The quality of all the Apple products I have owned have been brilliant (even if my iPhone screen smashed within a month). I personally hope the acquisition of this brand doesn't result in the gimmicky promotions like on the HP laptop brands etc
Post reply on HN