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Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by nate »

fragsworth wrote: post #7

It's sort of gimmicky to say that Cinnamon does this, because it's known to be sodium benzoate that causes this effect. In 2012 they discovered that sodium benzoate has an effect on Parkinson's disease proteins: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21701815 . This new study is, at least, a confirmation of the older study, and is also an attempt to use it to treat the disease.

Interesting. I didn't realize cinnamon metabolized to sodium benzoate. I've actually been trying to avoid sodium benzoate, especially in soft drinks because of worry what that preservative could possibly be doing to us (especially in the presence of vitamin c) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_benzoate But I've been purposefully eating a bunch of Cinnamon.

It's hard to reconcile sometimes what might be good for me or if it's killing me - Nicotine may have helped a young girl with epilepsy. http://www.clickorlando.com/news/central-florida-doctor-find...

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by hangonhn »

realrocker wrote: post #18

Naive comment: Indian food is loaded with cinnamon. Especially sweets. So why is India host to second largest population of Parkinsons afflicted[1]? Or maybe people are not served cinnamon rich food as they grow older because they are also rich in fat and sugar? I guess orthogonal studies like these don't have much value. There are obviously several other factors at work here. 1. http://www.epda.eu.com/en/parkinsons/…

Don't underestimate the value of "naivety". Gives people a fresh set of perspectives.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by Havoc »

imgabe wrote: post #14
Havoc wrote: post #3

I'm starting to think I should munch a mix of powders every morning. Cinnamon, tummeric, garlic etc.

If you don't have Parkinson's, and the associated brain changes that this is reversing, what would be the point?

>>If you don't have Parkinson's, and the associated brain changes that this is reversing, what would be the point?

The point...hedging my bets. I don't know whether I've got Parkisons...not will I until its too late.

So as long as its backed by something resembling science I'm OK with integrating minor changes into my life on the off chance that it might work. e.g. Right now I'm throwing a decent dose of tummeric into most of my cooking. Tastes fine, costs near zero and might help somewhere along the line. Worse case scenario is that nothing happens and I'm 0.1 USD poorer per month. Hell I suspect I'll receive more positive benefit from believing I might gain a benefit...some difference really.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by Someone1234 »

jzymbaluk wrote: post #17

My mom was kind of a health nut when we were a kid, she was getting organic food way before it was in vogue to do so, and I remember when she got us Cinnamon capsules to take in the morning with our other vitamins. I always thought it was silly to take a caplet full of cinammon, but I guess maybe there was something to it

Are you seriously suggesting that people should go buy a bunch of junk from the organic food shops just in case one of them turns out to be good for you in the future?

Adversely, what happens if one of them turns out to be a carcinogen or otherwise something that adversely affects health?

Your mom isn't wise, she just threw enough unproven stuff down her kid's throats so that it was inevitable that one of them one day might prove useful. I wonder how many damaging things (or potentially damaging) you also consumed?

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by DanBC »

Havoc wrote: post #23
imgabe wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't have Parkinson's, and the associated brain changes that this is reversing, what would be the point?

>>If you don't have Parkinson's, and the associated brain changes that this is reversing, what would be the point? The point...hedging my bets. I don't know whether I've got Parkisons...not will I until its too late. So as long as its backed by something resembling science I'm OK with integrating minor changes into my life on the off chance that it might work. e.g. Right now I'm throwing a decent dose of tummeric int…

Well, worst case scenario is the (very rare) chance of getting contaminated product through international spice adulteration and counterfeiting - and that contamination giving you some unpleasant food poisoning that gives you kidney disease leading you to either need a transplant or to live on dialysis for years.

I just did a web search for contaminated spoces and there are some recent US cases of imported turmeric that was high in lead. So worst case is that you very slowly give yourself lead poisoning.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by pcrh »

mojobot wrote: post #20
fragsworth wrote: post #7

It's sort of gimmicky to say that Cinnamon does this, because it's known to be sodium benzoate that causes this effect. In 2012 they discovered that sodium benzoate has an effect on Parkinson's disease proteins: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21701815 . This new study is, at least, a confirmation of the older study, and is also an attempt to use it to treat the disease.

I don't think it's gimmicky. Cinnamon is cheap and easy to make and easy to deliver to the patient. Those practical implications are lost if it's only referred to as sodium benzoate. I don't know if this research is done with the same grants as the MS/Cinnamon study from the NIH, but it sounds like it: http://www.rush.edu/webapps/MEDREL/servlet/NewsRelease?id=15...

I doubt that cinnamon is cheaper than sodium benzoate.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by pstuart »

tachyonbeam wrote: post #10
Havoc wrote: post #3

I'm starting to think I should munch a mix of powders every morning. Cinnamon, tummeric, garlic etc.

The bioavailability of curcumin (found in turmeric) is much better when taken along with piperine (found in black pepper). Also, welcome to the club: http://www.reddit.com/r/supplements

Don't forget examine.com:

http://examine.com/supplements/Cinnamon/

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Post by cbsmith »

pcrh wrote: post #27
mojobot wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's gimmicky. Cinnamon is cheap and easy to make and easy to deliver to the patient. Those practical implications are lost if it's only referred to as sodium benzoate. I don't know if this research is done with the same grants as the MS/Cinnamon study from the NIH, but it sounds like it: http://www.rush.edu/webapps/MEDREL/servlet/NewsRelease?id=15...

I doubt that cinnamon is cheaper than sodium benzoate.

Hey, we can use actually data for this!

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/price-of-sodium-benzoate.htm... http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cinnamon-price.html

Looks like the prices are surprisingly similar, though cinnamon is, if anything, more expensive. Additionally, I'd imagine that if sodium benzoate is the active ingredient, you'd need less of it to get the job done.

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