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Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by Forgotmypw12 »

ar7hur wrote: post #84

To put things in context, Israel killed at least 24 people in Gaza today [1], including children. Did they have access to Twitter, let alone any telecommunication mean, let alone food and water? Sorry, but I really don't see how your twitter account being rate-limited or whatever has the slightest importance in this tragedy. [1] http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/08/world/meast/mideast-tensions/i...

To put things in context, after receiving a warning call from the IDF that their building was going to be bombed, the head of the household ushered the children onto the roof as human shields.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/08/world/meast/mideast-tensions/i...

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by judah »

kungfooguru wrote: post #89

I think you mean, "Many casualties on the Palestinian side." Has ANYONE been killed in Israel? While Gaza is bombarded and dozens are dead, including children. Don't try to equate the oppressor with the oppressed.

Nor is the oppressor the side with fewer casualties. Germany lost far more soldiers and civilians in the Second World War, yet that racist regime were clealy the oppressors, whose end came only by force.

So it is with Hamas.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by judah »

korzun wrote: post #80
serf wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because it's not very common that this community can potentially pitch in to save lives on an immediate basis, and this happens to be one of those occasions. those relying on the service should not be penalized by the software development practices of the person who wrote it with the best of intentions, and the opportunity existed for that to be avoided via community outreach (and it worked).

Why would anybody in Israel rely on such 'service' when they have fully automated missile detection system that sounds alarms within the region of possible impact. Not to mention that twitter feed that gets it's news from another web site is a giant waste of time if you are trying to avoid rockets. It seems to me you drank the kool-aid, without any fact checking. If you want to do the 'lives' angle, if my life was at…

Alarm sounding isn't totally reliable. One rocket hit a northern city, Hadera, 60 miles outside of Gaza today. No alarm that instance, I'm told.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by dai_pole »

PavlovsCat wrote: post #87
dai_pole wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone whom can be bothered to read the Wikipedia "talk pages" can see for themselves that Wikipedia articles are edited to be thoroughly biased concerning Palestine/Israeli affairs. I find it strange that you created an account less than 20 minutes ago to take part in the "political discussion" yourself, unless you're working professionally as part of the "hasbara" effort?!

If they hadn't posted that link (to the BBC), I would have.. and if I didn't already have an account, I would have made one, just for that one post. Someone had to point it out.

Well of course, "someone" has to post the propaganda, otherwise the public might find out the truth.

Which photos are the BBC referring to? They don't reference them so that calls into question the veracity of their claims.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by hyperliner »

ar7hur wrote: post #84

To put things in context, Israel killed at least 24 people in Gaza today [1], including children. Did they have access to Twitter, let alone any telecommunication mean, let alone food and water? Sorry, but I really don't see how your twitter account being rate-limited or whatever has the slightest importance in this tragedy. [1] http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/08/world/meast/mideast-tensions/i...

He is just trying to do whatever he can on the side of the conflict he can help out.

It's a war, and collateral damage is, unfortunately, inevitable.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by tzs »

kungfooguru wrote: post #89

I think you mean, "Many casualties on the Palestinian side." Has ANYONE been killed in Israel? While Gaza is bombarded and dozens are dead, including children. Don't try to equate the oppressor with the oppressed.

There would be less people killed on the Palestinian side if Hamas' strategy didn't include purposefully putting civilians in harms way, such as by using them (including children) for human shields when Israel gives advance notice that a particular building is going to be bombed [1] [2].

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/world/middleeast/by-phone-...

[2] http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/08/world/meast/mideast-tensions/i...

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by vacri »

pron wrote: post #60
Link- wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I do understand and empathize with your cause. And trust that I'm not looking for a political argument or the likes. The comment above is a painful cry out towards the absurdity of the situation in an attempt to shed some light on the colossal 'gap' between the worries of both sides..

Yes, the gap is certainly absurd (though I'm not sure about the validity of the numbers you quoted). But there are many absurdities about this conflict. This is what I posted here during the previous spat (exactly 600 days ago): The mutual bloodshed is terrible, and, as a resident of Tel Aviv I'm personally affected, but there is one thing that has always perplexed me a bit, which is the perception of the actual fero…

a very low-intensity conflict compared to just about any other violent conflict, anywhere else in the world.

It's more medium-intensity than low-intensity. Yes, it's not open war. But neither is it as low-key as IRA bombings or Basque separatism. The Israeli-Arab conflict not only has a ton of money flowing in from other sources, it's also something of a proxy war from bigger players. The same can't be said of things like the Second Congo War - the most deadly war since WWII, but was geopolitically unimportant, and holds no benefit or kudos for the major players if they did get involved. The Israeli-Arab conflict also affects a lot of people and politics outside the Levant - both sides have a lot of prominent political and financial agitators. Compare to Cambodia's killing fields, an internal event with over a million dead... that had very little effect outside the country, and little in the way of agitators to draw attention.

So why do people harp on about the Israeli-Arab conflict? Because Israelis and Arabs keep on demanding the world's attention over the conflict, really.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by hyperliner »

kungfooguru wrote: post #89

I think you mean, "Many casualties on the Palestinian side." Has ANYONE been killed in Israel? While Gaza is bombarded and dozens are dead, including children. Don't try to equate the oppressor with the oppressed.

Three Israeli teenagers were murdered.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by hyperliner »

aerialfish wrote: post #75
yuvadam wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Possibly, but most reports never mention specific coordinates. Israelis already have complete drone coverage of Gaza Strip, they don't need reports on hits. Palestinians cannot possibly use coordinates to aim homebrew rockets being used. Hit radius is e.g. around 1km for far range rockets.

During the last flare up with Hezbollah, my friends in the Haifa suburbs told me that there were some gag orders on some rockets that landed near them to prevent Hezbollah from knowing that they had successful hits. But I suppose the rockets of Hamas vs Hezbollah would be different. EDIT: Seems like their rockets are reaching Tel Aviv so I guess they aren't as crude as they used to be...

Those rockets have long range, not precision.
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