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Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by Link- »

benjiz wrote: post #72
Link- wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Wikipedia is a credible resource for providing accurate numbers? How about you spend a couple of hours tonight monitoring #GazaUnderAttack ( https://twitter.com/search?q=%23gazaunderattack&src=typd ) on Twitter, and let's both count the number of casualties (in the pictures) for the night. May I remind you these are human beings; children, women and young girls murdered, they're not soldiers @pron. Numbers are ir…

The irony of pointing out that Wikipedia lacks perfect credibility and then citing twitter posts as a source! Those pictures under the #GazaUnderAttack are often fake (e.g. from other conflicts, such as Syria) as pointed out by the BBC [1] just yesterday. Twitter posts are about as useful and hysterical (and in the literal meaning, not funny) as YouTube comments and for the large part do nothing to promote useful dis…

@benjiz, because an apolitical discussion is the act of sharing soulless text without any particular depth. It's like focusing on a very narrow property/aspect of the discussion while neglecting context. Political discussions are not bad, they're great and conduce to sharing different perspectives of the same story. Extremism and non-balanced bias on the other hand are what this platform should avoid and have been avoided in this discussion (I hope).

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by hnriot »

yuvadam wrote: post #30
hnriot wrote: post #27

"In the words of Archimedes, give me a long enough lever, and a place to rest it - or I will kill one hostage every hour." Sure - that will get you priority with Twitter support!

https://xkcd.com/857/

right - that really makes it fine. I get the joke, I just don't think that sort of comment will help their cause much.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by Blahah »

korzun wrote: post #80
serf wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because it's not very common that this community can potentially pitch in to save lives on an immediate basis, and this happens to be one of those occasions. those relying on the service should not be penalized by the software development practices of the person who wrote it with the best of intentions, and the opportunity existed for that to be avoided via community outreach (and it worked).

Why would anybody in Israel rely on such 'service' when they have fully automated missile detection system that sounds alarms within the region of possible impact. Not to mention that twitter feed that gets it's news from another web site is a giant waste of time if you are trying to avoid rockets. It seems to me you drank the kool-aid, without any fact checking. If you want to do the 'lives' angle, if my life was at…

If my life was at risk I'd probably not restrict myself to one source of information about possible sources of impending death.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by ar7hur »

To put things in context, Israel killed at least 24 people in Gaza today [1], including children. Did they have access to Twitter, let alone any telecommunication mean, let alone food and water? Sorry, but I really don't see how your twitter account being rate-limited or whatever has the slightest importance in this tragedy.

[1] http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/08/world/meast/mideast-tensions/i...

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by ars »

Link- wrote: post #78
pron wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, children on both sides were killed in the last several days, and yes, the residents of Gaza are certainly worse off -- as they have been for the past many decades -- than most Israelis (mostly through no fault of Israel's). I really wish this conflict would end as soon as possible, and I'm actively trying, in my very modest civilian capacity, to advance a peaceful resolution. But let me assure you that no genoci…

I share the same hopes for peaceful resolution pron, and I personally, truly, appreciate your endeavors. If there's any way we can combine efforts to reach the same goals in balancing the odds, I'm more than willing to invest my time (among other resources) in that. I'm afraid, though, that deep geo-political agendas govern this conflict and any if not all civilian initiatives are dwarfed compared to these forces at…

> reach the same goals in balancing the odds

Did you seriously just write that? As in you are trying to have more Israelis killed so there will be balance?

Tell me I misunderstood you.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by myrdev »

korzun wrote: post #80
serf wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because it's not very common that this community can potentially pitch in to save lives on an immediate basis, and this happens to be one of those occasions. those relying on the service should not be penalized by the software development practices of the person who wrote it with the best of intentions, and the opportunity existed for that to be avoided via community outreach (and it worked).

Why would anybody in Israel rely on such 'service' when they have fully automated missile detection system that sounds alarms within the region of possible impact. Not to mention that twitter feed that gets it's news from another web site is a giant waste of time if you are trying to avoid rockets. It seems to me you drank the kool-aid, without any fact checking. If you want to do the 'lives' angle, if my life was at…

Given some of the posts elsewhere in the thread, that automated warning system isn't foolproof, so more info is better.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by PavlovsCat »

dai_pole wrote: post #76
benjiz wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony of pointing out that Wikipedia lacks perfect credibility and then citing twitter posts as a source! Those pictures under the #GazaUnderAttack are often fake (e.g. from other conflicts, such as Syria) as pointed out by the BBC [1] just yesterday. Twitter posts are about as useful and hysterical (and in the literal meaning, not funny) as YouTube comments and for the large part do nothing to promote useful dis…

Anyone whom can be bothered to read the Wikipedia "talk pages" can see for themselves that Wikipedia articles are edited to be thoroughly biased concerning Palestine/Israeli affairs. I find it strange that you created an account less than 20 minutes ago to take part in the "political discussion" yourself, unless you're working professionally as part of the "hasbara" effort?!

If they hadn't posted that link (to the BBC), I would have.. and if I didn't already have an account, I would have made one, just for that one post. Someone had to point it out.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by pron »

Link- wrote: post #78
pron wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, children on both sides were killed in the last several days, and yes, the residents of Gaza are certainly worse off -- as they have been for the past many decades -- than most Israelis (mostly through no fault of Israel's). I really wish this conflict would end as soon as possible, and I'm actively trying, in my very modest civilian capacity, to advance a peaceful resolution. But let me assure you that no genoci…

I share the same hopes for peaceful resolution pron, and I personally, truly, appreciate your endeavors. If there's any way we can combine efforts to reach the same goals in balancing the odds, I'm more than willing to invest my time (among other resources) in that. I'm afraid, though, that deep geo-political agendas govern this conflict and any if not all civilian initiatives are dwarfed compared to these forces at…

Whatever those geopolitical forces are, unfortunately for the Arabs in the Middle East, Israel is the very least of their problems. There are far more destructive (and far, far more lethal) forces in the region, and the Arab-Israeli conflict is the least violent one in the Middle East by an order of magnitude.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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Post by gamegoblin »

kungfooguru wrote: post #89

I think you mean, "Many casualties on the Palestinian side." Has ANYONE been killed in Israel? While Gaza is bombarded and dozens are dead, including children. Don't try to equate the oppressor with the oppressed.

Casualty != killed

That being said, I suspect you are correct about a disparity in numbers on one side.

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