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Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

#51

Here's a link to the Google Translated feed for @rotternews. (I used the mobile version due to formatting issues w/ the standard version) https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&...

If anyone reads it, please don't mistake it for a mainstream Israeli news organization. Rotter News is a fringe right wing news website.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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post #47

I'm curious, is this service service equally available/relevant to civilians on both sides of the conflict, or only one? I don't ask to be judgmental, I recognize that politically/legally it may not even be possible to serve both sides. I just wondered if the automated nature of the service allows for it to be apolitical.

Such a service could well be apolitical, but @rotternews is an extreme right wing news organization by Israeli standards.

sources ?

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

#53

Here's a link to the Google Translated feed for @rotternews. (I used the mobile version due to formatting issues w/ the standard version) https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&...

This does not look like an emergency alert twitter feed, but more a news feed website about Israël.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

#55
post #51

Here's a link to the Google Translated feed for @rotternews. (I used the mobile version due to formatting issues w/ the standard version) https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&...

If anyone reads it, please don't mistake it for a mainstream Israeli news organization. Rotter News is a fringe right wing news website.

It is. It also happens to be very good at reporting live rocket hits fast, which makes it a valuable resource regardless of their politics (which I don't agree with).

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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post #52
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such a service could well be apolitical, but @rotternews is an extreme right wing news organization by Israeli standards.

sources ?

Well, the website itself is the best of sources. I would translate some of the posts if I weren't too ashamed.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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post #47

I'm curious, is this service service equally available/relevant to civilians on both sides of the conflict, or only one? I don't ask to be judgmental, I recognize that politically/legally it may not even be possible to serve both sides. I just wondered if the automated nature of the service allows for it to be apolitical.

Such a service could well be apolitical, but @rotternews is an extreme right wing news organization by Israeli standards.

That is true, most of the participants on Rotter hold views that are despicable and couldn't be further away from my beliefs.

However, Rotter has time and again proven to be the best news community on the Israeli internet, bringing breaking news and alerts as they happen.

Also, note that all the hate speech on Rotter always takes place in the thread comments, never in the headlines, which is what we use for @rotternews.

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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post #23

I'm curious, is this service service equally available/relevant to civilians on both sides of the conflict, or only one? I don't ask to be judgmental, I recognize that politically/legally it may not even be possible to serve both sides. I just wondered if the automated nature of the service allows for it to be apolitical.

Unfortunately, it caters mostly to the Israeli side, as it is in Hebrew and relies on Hebrew sources of information. I would very much be interested in helping build a similar system for Palestinians in Gaza, but from past attempts to organize similar cooperations, help is not necessarily wanted. That being said, I am aware of several Palestinian users in Gaza who do follow this account for various purposes.

This article is relevant.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/09/world/middleeast/by-phone-...

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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post #57
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such a service could well be apolitical, but @rotternews is an extreme right wing news organization by Israeli standards.

That is true, most of the participants on Rotter hold views that are despicable and couldn't be further away from my beliefs. However, Rotter has time and again proven to be the best news community on the Israeli internet, bringing breaking news and alerts as they happen. Also, note that all the hate speech on Rotter always takes place in the thread comments, never in the headlines, which is what we use for @rotterne…

> Also, note that all the hate speech on Rotter always takes place in the thread comments, never in the headlines, which is what we use for @rotternews.

Is it now? What about these, just in the past few hours:

* https://twitter.com/RotterNews/status/486621279823200256

* https://twitter.com/RotterNews/status/486621270738366464

* https://twitter.com/RotterNews/status/486631085724286976

* https://twitter.com/RotterNews/status/486625806932664320

Again, I will not translate because the views expressed in this Twitter feed are abhorrent to most Israelis, and are, quite frankly, idiotic and juvenile, but the Twitter feed itself is most certainly ultra right wing (and represents a small minority of Israelis).

Re: Ask HN: Urgent connection to Twitter support

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post #22
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please, I completely understand, and trust me our views on this issue aren't very different. My goal is to disseminate breaking news and alerts as quickly and widely as possible, to whomever needs it.

As I do understand and empathize with your cause. And trust that I'm not looking for a political argument or the likes. The comment above is a painful cry out towards the absurdity of the situation in an attempt to shed some light on the colossal 'gap' between the worries of both sides..

Yes, the gap is certainly absurd (though I'm not sure about the validity of the numbers you quoted). But there are many absurdities about this conflict. This is what I posted here during the previous spat (exactly 600 days ago):

The mutual bloodshed is terrible, and, as a resident of Tel Aviv I'm personally affected, but there is one thing that has always perplexed me a bit, which is the perception of the actual ferocity of the conflict. Obviously, every death is a terrible loss, but this forum is fond of numbers, so while we're on the subject, here are some numbers:

The total number of deaths in the entire Israeli-Arab conflict over the past 70 years or so, is - according to Wikipedia - under 100,000. Out of which, about 25,000 are Israeli, a similar number are Palestinians, and the rest, I guess are casualties of all the other fighting arab countries combined, although the total seems to me a bit high. That's the total for the past 70 years.

By comparison, in the Libyan and Syrian civil wars, Wikipedia puts the number of deaths at about 30,000 in each country in the last year alone. And the Mexican drug war has claimed the lives of about 56,000 since 2006; some estimates go as high as 100,000.

So, not to compare suffering, but the entire Israeli-Arab conflict has claimed, over the last 70 years, more or less the same number of lives as the drug war in Mexico in the past 6.

In short, both sides are trying to recruit the world's support for what is, in reality, a very low-intensity conflict compared to just about any other violent conflict, anywhere else in the world.

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