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Why You Should Quit Your Job and Travel around the World

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Re: Why You Should Quit Your Job and Travel around the World

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Doesn't really say why, or does it? I am not a big traveler, so I am probably wrong, but in a way, traveling seems kind of passive to me. Sure, you get to see lots of things, but seeing (and learning) is passive. How am I going to change the world doing that? I would need some kind of spin to it, like at least being a successful travel writer or something. Otherwise, what are the USEFUL experiences to make? Would be…

Traveling, like most other activities, really is contingent on how much work you put into it. Traveling passively is easy to do and essentially useless. You go somewhere else, rapidly seek out the things that make you comfortable, and then sit there bothered by how these approximations don't quite make you as comfortable as you would have been if you never left. You might go try the tourist gig a little, snap some pictures to prove to your friends and family you were wherever, and then go and hide some more.

It seems hyperbolic, but go to any practically and hostel in a developed city worldwide and you'll find a group of Americans doing just that (not to mention other debaucheries).

Traveling actively is basically the exact opposite of that. It takes research, bravery, spontaneity, social skill, and a boat load of curiosity. When you travel like this though you can paint yourself into entirely new environments and see the ways you expand, you can look back into the ways you live normally and then pick and choose the parts you like the most. In this way you can actively change your own world and certainly put yourself in a better place to continue making positive changes.

Most immediately: you'll soften your bias and become aware of the biases of others, you'll understand the traditions of your culture and be better able to interpret their necessity or value, you'll become experienced in some other culture able to interpret things through a slightly different point of view. Together these things can be used to vastly improve your home or can become skills to help you change the world.

Of course, if you want to travel and at that very moment do some active changing, you may want to try something like Peace Corps, Doctors/Engineers Without Borders, or other world health initiatives. You should be careful though because if you don't have the experience which can let you isolate your own cultural biases a little then you may get connected with some group which will inhibit your ability to learn. In my opinion, this is the trap which things like mission trips fall into and, as an effect, they may become some kind of mixture of harm and benefit.

Re: Why You Should Quit Your Job and Travel around the World

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How am I going to change the world doing that? By planting seeds that you have no other way of getting into your brain. You can reap the (currently unknown) harvest later.

Not saying you are wrong, but could you give some examples? There are always zillions of options in life - to choose one, a little more than "currently unknown" would be nice? Is traveling better than working on a startup?

This is one of those things that is incredibly difficult to explain to people that haven't done it, while the people who have, instantly get what you're talking about.

I disagree with the author that you shouldn't just travel, but you should actually live in different places. You hardly learn anything from staying in a place for a few days but you learn much more if you stay in a place for at least a few months.

Living abroad challenges you in ways that are very hard to find at home. Everyday things like buying groceries or ordering food in a restaurant become challenging (as long as you don't go to an English speaking country). You start to discover beliefs that you didn't even know you had because the local people believe and act in totally different ways. You're always questioning 'why?' Why do people push to the front here and not line up properly? Why do people shake your your hand again when they see you even though you've met them a bunch of times before? Why do people not understand sarcasm like in North America? Why do the people sit around drinking coffee all day? Why is this person giving me a gift? What are the reasons behind this? Why did that person say they would do something when it was obvious they weren't going to do it? Is this representative of the whole culture or just this one person? Why do so many people believe in superstitions and tradition? and so on...

You start to recognize your own culture and, especially upon returning home, start to see things that you don't really like about your own culture - things that you weren't even aware about before.

Living in another country is a great opportunity to learn more about yourself, about others and have a rewarding experience consisting of ups and downs.

Re: Why You Should Quit Your Job and Travel around the World

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“I don’t have money to travel.” Fair enough if it’s true, but for many people who say this, it would be better to say, “I’ve chosen to spend money on a lot of other things, so now I don’t have money to travel.” Shall we never forget the lovely Victorian ethic that the poor have only themselves to blame.

I don't see how this Victorian ethic applies. He's not talking about the poor, but rather those who have "chosen to spend money on a lot of other things", i.e. the middle-class.

He assumes you make more than $2 a day. http://chrisguillebeau.com/3x5/you-are-incredibly-rich/

Re: Why You Should Quit Your Job and Travel around the World

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Meh. Travel is overrated. The chances of you actually learning anything of substance by running around from one exotic country to another are very slim indeed. Staying in another country for a substantial amount of time, on the other hand, is of course an entirely different matter but travelling for the sake of travelling, while pleasurable in and of itself, does not teach you anything you couldn't have learned from…

certainly longer is better but every trip offers a chance to learn something - and not the trivia that can be found in brochures. traveling supplies a nearly complete change of context for your brain and if it is turned on change will certainly occur (i.e. growth). differences in customs, architecture and language are extremely inspiring.; many of the best lessons are indirect and stem from thought provoking experiences akin to brainstorming rather than the accumulation of data.

Re: Why You Should Quit Your Job and Travel around the World

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Meh. Travel is overrated. The chances of you actually learning anything of substance by running around from one exotic country to another are very slim indeed. Staying in another country for a substantial amount of time, on the other hand, is of course an entirely different matter but travelling for the sake of travelling, while pleasurable in and of itself, does not teach you anything you couldn't have learned from…

I disagree.

How much you learn is dependent on how willing you are to put yourself out there, even if only for a brief period of time. While I prefer to travel for longer periods of time, I certainly will not knock a two week trip through Europe. You can learn and experience a lot with the right attitude and outlook.

To attempt an analogy fitting for this forum, saying that it "does not teach you anything you couldn't have learned from a brochure" is like saying there is no sense in starting your own company when you could simply work for one that already exists. Creating a company is much different than working for a company. Much like being in a place is a lot different that reading a brochure about it. All the things that make creating a company a valuable experience are the same things that make traveling a valuable experience: all the little details, the hurdles, the hassles, taking a leap, getting there.

I also recommend the following essay by Pico Iyer: http://www.worldhum.com/features/travel-stories/why-we-trave...

Re: Why You Should Quit Your Job and Travel around the World

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Meh. Travel is overrated. The chances of you actually learning anything of substance by running around from one exotic country to another are very slim indeed. Staying in another country for a substantial amount of time, on the other hand, is of course an entirely different matter but travelling for the sake of travelling, while pleasurable in and of itself, does not teach you anything you couldn't have learned from…

Double Meh. Traveling is definitely overrated. Nonconformity != Traveling. The perks of travelling just to "see" new places is novel, but gets old fast. If you've travelled a lot, you get to see the hoards of backpackers and tourists that swarm to the usual (and usual unusual) destinations, and it starts to get lame, fast.

And I'd agree mtts that you don't "learn" much about just visiting a country. Sure, you may "see" what a town or city is like, but you're just reading the cover, not the book.

I moved to New Zealand just for the heck of it with my family, and lived there for almost 3 years. Everyone that visits there gives the same 'ol schpiel... "Oh, it's so beautiful there. It's where the Lord of the Rings was filmed! It's the greenest place I've ever been, and is so environmentally friendly". Everytime I heard that, I could only let out a hugh sigh. They visited and didn't "learn" anything. New Zealand dust crops their entire countryside with poison (1080, which is illegal in the US) quite often, and is "not" very environmentally progressive. Their marketing department, however, is quite progressive!

Re: Why You Should Quit Your Job and Travel around the World

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Meh. Travel is overrated. The chances of you actually learning anything of substance by running around from one exotic country to another are very slim indeed. Staying in another country for a substantial amount of time, on the other hand, is of course an entirely different matter but travelling for the sake of travelling, while pleasurable in and of itself, does not teach you anything you couldn't have learned from…

"...does not teach you anything you couldn't have learned from a brochure about the places you're visiting."

Sorry, That's not right. It's funny that you say it, specially when you have no stories to support. Perhaps, you confuse travel with being a tourist. Travelling is a different ball game than being a tourist - going by the brochures, paying the entry fee to the biggest shoe in the world and then hitting the bar in the evening and catching the flight back home. Travelling is not going to Disney-world. Travelling is even living at a place for an unplanned amount of time.

context- i met many 'travellers' in the past week - during a visit to a remote part of china. me and wife didn't go to the touristy parts of the area. Infact spent a day just sitting and listening to nature. Among them, I met this european couple (with kids) who are living there to save enough money to make to the next goal - RVing across Americas. I met this couple who travelled all around and found their funds depleted in Malaysia and so they have been working there to save money..until the next step. There was this one guy from Norway who worked super hard last year to just travel 6 months (mostly by land). Travellers don't go by brochure, they go by recommendations by other travellers. And mostly all 'travellers' try to avoid flights to the extreme (even taking a van across the Gobi desert)

I actually asked blunt questions(with prior permission) about their learning/philosophy/future plans..etc(even their kids)..too long to post here. But I will say this - they do learn - actually continuous learning, learning from cultures, respecting people, not being judgemental(do you the see the homeless man and the bentley salesman in the same way, talk the same way?)..many more things.

Apologies, but I am surprised that many people 'agree' with you without your giving your 'proofs'.

Re: Why You Should Quit Your Job and Travel around the World

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Meh. Travel is overrated. The chances of you actually learning anything of substance by running around from one exotic country to another are very slim indeed. Staying in another country for a substantial amount of time, on the other hand, is of course an entirely different matter but travelling for the sake of travelling, while pleasurable in and of itself, does not teach you anything you couldn't have learned from…

Why should you learn something of substance for it to be worthwhile? You dismiss the diverse life experiences you'll gain, even as a tourist. Not everything has to have an educational or financial pay off. Sometimes just being somewhere else is its own reward.

Re: Why You Should Quit Your Job and Travel around the World

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* "I like staying at home." - This is another way of saying, "I'm afraid of change and different experiences."*

Bullshit. I find travel very stressful, and none of it is due to fear of change and different experiences. It comes from living out of a suitcase, having to re-buy all the toiletries and crap I have at home but forgot to bring, and being away from my wife and dogs who I enjoy spending time with.

Just remember: don't like != am afraid of I don't like buttermilk biscuits. That doesn't mean I wake up sweating in the night screaming that they're coming to get me.

Re: Why You Should Quit Your Job and Travel around the World

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Doesn't really say why, or does it? I am not a big traveler, so I am probably wrong, but in a way, traveling seems kind of passive to me. Sure, you get to see lots of things, but seeing (and learning) is passive. How am I going to change the world doing that? I would need some kind of spin to it, like at least being a successful travel writer or something. Otherwise, what are the USEFUL experiences to make? Would be…

For me, what I get out of travelling (which I don't do often enough) is experiencing a foreign culture. I don't enjoy travelling from place to place and seeing the sights - it's always been a hollow experience to me, except perhaps for those momentous sights that have an impact a picture really can't convey - think the Grand Canyon of Niagara Falls. It seems such a waste to me when people visit somewhere, and make little attempt to truly experience the culture.
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