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BBC staff ordered to stop giving equal airtime to climate deniers

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Re: BBC staff ordered to stop giving equal airtime to climate deniers

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Post by pling »

That sucks.

If someone has an opinion, it should be free to be debated. The only way we can fight ignorance in science is with public debate. If someone wants to deny it, fine (otherwise it's not science) but put the hypothesis on the table and let people actually test it and debate it publicly.

The proves only that the BBC has various political opinions and agendas and is not an unbiased source (as many people surely quote).

For ref, not a denier. I hold no opinion (a perpetual state of 'mu') because I haven't read any papers on the subject. I refuse to confuse media and science.

Edit: the down votes proving that rationality doesn't come anywhere near this discussion...

Re: BBC staff ordered to stop giving equal airtime to climate deniers

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Post by skylan_q »

div wrote: post #10
skylan_q wrote: post #4

Quelling dissenters! A true victory for science!

These people do not participate in science.

Next up: muting people who don't agree with the fact that inflation is good because the only people who deny it don't participate in economics.

Re: BBC staff ordered to stop giving equal airtime to climate deniers

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Post by pling »

div wrote: post #10
skylan_q wrote: post #4

Quelling dissenters! A true victory for science!

These people do not participate in science.

They should ban Songs of Praise as well then...

Edit: if you're going to down vote at least have the balls to explain your position.

Re: BBC staff ordered to stop giving equal airtime to climate deniers

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Post by ja30278 »

"Another sort there be who, when they hear that all things shall be ordered, all things regulated and settled, nothing written but what passes through the custom-house of certain publicans that have the tonnaging and poundaging of all free-spoken truth, will straight give themselves up into your hands, make 'em and cut 'em out what religion ye please: there be delights, there be recreations and jolly pastimes that will fetch the day about from sun to sun, and rock the tedious year as in a delightful dream. What need they torture their heads with that which others have taken so strictly and so unalterably into their own purveying? These are the fruits which a dull ease and cessation of our knowledge will bring forth among the people. How goodly and how to be wished were such an obedient unanimity as this, what a fine conformity would it starch us all into! Doubtless a staunch and solid piece of framework, as any January could freeze together."

Re: BBC staff ordered to stop giving equal airtime to climate deniers

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Post by Crito »

tieTYT wrote: post #3
Karunamon wrote: post #2

Were every network to start doing what the BBC is, their unfounded opinions would cease to be heard, Bill Nye wouldn’t have to keep debating them, and maybe, just maybe, they’d all just go away. Not bloody likely. Now you've just put them in the same group as the other conspiracy theorists, and given them the additional (legitimate) ammo that "the establishment is censoring them". Confirmation bias is a hell of a dru…

Devil's advocate: When's the last time a fringe* conspiracy theorist's agenda has been able to effect legislature? EDIT: Added the word "fringe". As in, a conspiracy theory that doesn't get media coverage.

http://fluoridealert.org/content/communities/ "Communities Which Have Rejected Fluoridation Since 1990"

"Satanic Ritual Abuse" aka Satanic Panic also had a field-day in the courts, if not the legislature.

Re: BBC staff ordered to stop giving equal airtime to climate deniers

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Post by Steko »

skylan_q wrote: post #4

Quelling dissenters! A true victory for science!

More like astroturf dissent is no longer going to be subsidized by a stupid journalistic policy. Yes it's a victory for real science. If climate deniers want to debate the real science that door is wide open as always.

Re: BBC staff ordered to stop giving equal airtime to climate deniers

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Post by alexeisadeski3 »

tieTYT wrote: post #3
Karunamon wrote: post #2

Were every network to start doing what the BBC is, their unfounded opinions would cease to be heard, Bill Nye wouldn’t have to keep debating them, and maybe, just maybe, they’d all just go away. Not bloody likely. Now you've just put them in the same group as the other conspiracy theorists, and given them the additional (legitimate) ammo that "the establishment is censoring them". Confirmation bias is a hell of a dru…

Devil's advocate: When's the last time a fringe* conspiracy theorist's agenda has been able to effect legislature? EDIT: Added the word "fringe". As in, a conspiracy theory that doesn't get media coverage.

SarBox? FATCA?
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