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So you want to be a PHP Developer?

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Re: So you want to be a PHP Developer?

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Post by MrSelection »

toni wrote: post #48
MrSelection wrote: post #47

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Well i am in indonesia..

I would suggest you to find a job in Singapore or even Malaysia. Browse http://startupjobs.asia/ and try to apply for jobs in countries around you. After you have 3 to 5 years experience, try to emigrate to United States, Canada, News Zealand or a couple of good European countries. Germany, The Netherlands and Sweden off the top of my head. In the mean time, try to learn French or Spanish beside improving your Englis…

that is what i aim for, unfortunetly some prefer local people so they didnot need to mess with working permit or anything, for now i am looking for a post-graduate 1year study chance and give me 2-3years stay in that country did you know any of the country like that?, Thanks for the suggestion :)

Re: So you want to be a PHP Developer?

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Post by toni »

MrSelection wrote: post #51
toni wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would suggest you to find a job in Singapore or even Malaysia. Browse http://startupjobs.asia/ and try to apply for jobs in countries around you. After you have 3 to 5 years experience, try to emigrate to United States, Canada, News Zealand or a couple of good European countries. Germany, The Netherlands and Sweden off the top of my head. In the mean time, try to learn French or Spanish beside improving your Englis…

that is what i aim for, unfortunetly some prefer local people so they didnot need to mess with working permit or anything, for now i am looking for a post-graduate 1year study chance and give me 2-3years stay in that country did you know any of the country like that?, Thanks for the suggestion :)

My personal advise is to stop wasting your time with studying anymore. A lot of web agencies and startups do not care if you have a university degrees or not, they only care about your programming skills. Find a job in Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, etc. If you look at http://www.startupjobs.asia/ you will see that a lot of startups welcome developers from other countries.

But then again, this is my personal advise. If you firmly decided to continue studying aboard, don't let a random stranger on internet change your mind. Good luck to you anyway!

Re: So you want to be a PHP Developer?

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Post by DCoder »

MrSelection wrote: post #42

So anyone in here can give me a opinion, how i can improve myself as a worthy developer.. I am 22 years old fresh graduate and a ruby developer with currently 1 year experience, before i have learn node.js(express), php(cms, news site), db(sql,nosql)... but i got a feel(*is it true?) that america, europe is getting a worthed salary as a programmer they are valued rather than here in my country i got around $6000/year…

An alternative to emigrating could be finding a local company working on projects for foreign clients. For example, I live in Eastern Europe and work for a company that deals 99% with clients from Denmark (Central Europe). I make significantly more than the average worker here does. Just be careful and make sure the company values quality and best practices over a quick buck.

Re: So you want to be a PHP Developer?

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Post by mreiland »

imaginenore wrote: post #35

Drupal absolutely does NOT have a low learning curve. If you want to do anything beyond a basic configuration blog-style site, good luck finding developers who know how to deal with Drupal's internals, especially in the last version.

I was wondering at that too, but I don't have experience with some of the other frameworks so I thought perhaps it was just all relative :)

I love Drupal, despite some of the flack it gets, I think on the whole it does what it does really well. But easy to get into "it aint".

Re: So you want to be a PHP Developer?

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Post by MrSelection »

toni wrote: post #52
MrSelection wrote: post #51

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that is what i aim for, unfortunetly some prefer local people so they didnot need to mess with working permit or anything, for now i am looking for a post-graduate 1year study chance and give me 2-3years stay in that country did you know any of the country like that?, Thanks for the suggestion :)

My personal advise is to stop wasting your time with studying anymore. A lot of web agencies and startups do not care if you have a university degrees or not, they only care about your programming skills. Find a job in Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, etc. If you look at http://www.startupjobs.asia/ you will see that a lot of startups welcome developers from other countries. But then again, this is my personal…

The best thank you :)... God bless you..

Re: So you want to be a PHP Developer?

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Post by JonoBB »

dutchbrit wrote: post #43
ZoFreX wrote: post #27

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This. I don't understand why CodeIgniter gets mentioned in the same breath as Zend or Symphony, or any other fully-fledged framework. CI is, to start with, much smaller: it's tiny, the sort of thing you could knock out in a week. It also has deep-rooted architectural issues that are preventing some of the longest standing bugs being fixed (for example, take a look at the router). Lastly it's not anywhere near as modu…

The only reason why I mentioned it is because it's extremely easy - for a beginner, it's not a bad choice because it doesn't overwhelm you. Take baby steps.

Just because something it easy does not make it the right choice.

Conversely, it is a bad choice because it teaches you bad practices and you will be forced to implement so many hacks on any reasonable sized project. Just don't use it.

Re: So you want to be a PHP Developer?

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Post by wiseleo »

imaginenore wrote: post #35

Drupal absolutely does NOT have a low learning curve. If you want to do anything beyond a basic configuration blog-style site, good luck finding developers who know how to deal with Drupal's internals, especially in the last version.

Not to mention how there is no backward compatibility. That's what made me abandon that platform.

Re: So you want to be a PHP Developer?

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Post by rimantas »

stephenr wrote: post #38
alkonaut wrote: post #15

"PHP-elitist" is an oxymoron, right? Like a dumpster-foodie or an instant-coffee aficionado?

Stating that disliking/hating the mess that is wordpress makes someone an elitist is stupid and sounds like an apologist to me. Would you call someone a ruby elitist because they embraced best practices and disliked/hated a project that refuses to embrace best practices and encourages bad practices?

That comment is also under joomla, which is even worse than WP.

Re: So you want to be a PHP Developer?

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Post by dutchbrit »

adamors wrote: post #50
dutchbrit wrote: post #43

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The only reason why I mentioned it is because it's extremely easy - for a beginner, it's not a bad choice because it doesn't overwhelm you. Take baby steps.

But then you're better off with something like Silex. It's tiny and easy to pick up, but you're using a solid software and along the way get familiar with Symfony components as well.

I'm not familiar with Silex, I'll check it out!!
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