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IRC logs from the beginning of the Gulf War (1991)

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Re: IRC logs from the beginning of the Gulf War (1991)

#11

Post by TeMPOraL »

ilaksh wrote: post #8

I'd like to see IRC logs from other countries at the same time. As well as a map of all of the invasions and "liberations" with a timeline, and a list of official "reasons" for those military actions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil... Hmm. I wonder what the IRC logs of the Venezuelan "liberation" will look like? Actually for Venezuelan's sake hopefully the economic warfare already going…

> As well as a map of all of the invasions and "liberations" with a timeline, and a list of official "reasons" for those military actions.

I like that idea. It could be really interesting and educating to play with an interactive map showing that. There are things like that appearing from time to time (like the article about Syria and Iraq from yesterday[0]); I hope that concept trend will catch on and we'll see more and more old and modern history knowledge expressed in interactive, explorable forms.

[0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7985305

Re: IRC logs from the beginning of the Gulf War (1991)

#12

Post by shepardrtc »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #10
melloclello wrote: post #7

Archived SomethingAwful thread from 9/11/2001: http://www.truegamer.net/SA_911/911%20SATHREAD/ http://www.truegamer.net/SA_911/911%20SATHREAD/wtc01.html > WATCH BUSH START A FUCKING WAR

From the thread: > Now this is weird, since last week was the first showing of that X-files spin-off "The Lone Gunmen" in Austalia. The plot of the first one was that some government group was going to fly a plane into the World Trade Centre. Life imitates art? Eee... WHAT? I always read that WTC was the kind of event that no one ever imagined it could possibly happen until after the incident.

Nope. For another example, see Debt of Honor by Tom Clancy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt_of_Honor

Re: IRC logs from the beginning of the Gulf War (1991)

#13

Post by jdong »

Houshalter wrote: post #9

This is surprisingly interesting. I just picked a random log and found this: test to see if infoserver is echoing messages to group +war. well all this info is probably old. The iraqis caused an oil spill 8-10 miles long and a couple miles wide. It's 12 times the size of that caused by the exxon valdeez. It's not known if wells are actively pumping into the gulf right now, or if they just dumped stored reserves. If t…

This message seems to be way too long for IRC.

edit: I really don't get why people are downvoting this, the message appears to have at least 1298 characters.

Re: IRC logs from the beginning of the Gulf War (1991)

#14

Post by TeMPOraL »

melloclello wrote: post #7

Archived SomethingAwful thread from 9/11/2001: http://www.truegamer.net/SA_911/911%20SATHREAD/ http://www.truegamer.net/SA_911/911%20SATHREAD/wtc01.html > WATCH BUSH START A FUCKING WAR

Pro tip: increment the number in the second URL to see other pages of the discussion thread.

Re: IRC logs from the beginning of the Gulf War (1991)

#15

Post by icegreentea »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #10
melloclello wrote: post #7

Archived SomethingAwful thread from 9/11/2001: http://www.truegamer.net/SA_911/911%20SATHREAD/ http://www.truegamer.net/SA_911/911%20SATHREAD/wtc01.html > WATCH BUSH START A FUCKING WAR

From the thread: > Now this is weird, since last week was the first showing of that X-files spin-off "The Lone Gunmen" in Austalia. The plot of the first one was that some government group was going to fly a plane into the World Trade Centre. Life imitates art? Eee... WHAT? I always read that WTC was the kind of event that no one ever imagined it could possibly happen until after the incident.

Clearly they meant the general public thought it was outside the realm of things that would actually happen, as opposed to realistic seeming (yet safely 'impossible') things of fiction.

For example Tom Clancy's Debt of Honour wraps up with a Japanese airliner flying into the Capitol Building killing off the majority of the US Government.

Re: IRC logs from the beginning of the Gulf War (1991)

#16

Post by ilaksh »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #11
ilaksh wrote: post #8

I'd like to see IRC logs from other countries at the same time. As well as a map of all of the invasions and "liberations" with a timeline, and a list of official "reasons" for those military actions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil... Hmm. I wonder what the IRC logs of the Venezuelan "liberation" will look like? Actually for Venezuelan's sake hopefully the economic warfare already going…

> As well as a map of all of the invasions and "liberations" with a timeline, and a list of official "reasons" for those military actions. I like that idea. It could be really interesting and educating to play with an interactive map showing that. There are things like that appearing from time to time (like the article about Syria and Iraq from yesterday[0]); I hope that concept trend will catch on and we'll see more…

I think it would be good to have a map and timeline like that going back to the 10th century. Because I think that people _really_ could use some perspective.

Re: IRC logs from the beginning of the Gulf War (1991)

#17

Post by TeMPOraL »

icegreentea wrote: post #15
TeMPOraL wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the thread: > Now this is weird, since last week was the first showing of that X-files spin-off "The Lone Gunmen" in Austalia. The plot of the first one was that some government group was going to fly a plane into the World Trade Centre. Life imitates art? Eee... WHAT? I always read that WTC was the kind of event that no one ever imagined it could possibly happen until after the incident.

Clearly they meant the general public thought it was outside the realm of things that would actually happen, as opposed to realistic seeming (yet safely 'impossible') things of fiction. For example Tom Clancy's Debt of Honour wraps up with a Japanese airliner flying into the Capitol Building killing off the majority of the US Government.

No, I believed that it was outside the realm of imagination, that the concept of flying a passenger plane into a building as a form of suicide attack never entered the collective mind of the society. I stand corrected though, thank you and shepardrtc for the Tom Clancy reference. I guess one gets to learn something new every day ;).

Re: IRC logs from the beginning of the Gulf War (1991)

#18

Post by TeMPOraL »

ilaksh wrote: post #16
TeMPOraL wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As well as a map of all of the invasions and "liberations" with a timeline, and a list of official "reasons" for those military actions. I like that idea. It could be really interesting and educating to play with an interactive map showing that. There are things like that appearing from time to time (like the article about Syria and Iraq from yesterday[0]); I hope that concept trend will catch on and we'll see more…

I think it would be good to have a map and timeline like that going back to the 10th century. Because I think that people _really_ could use some perspective.

Kind of an unified, explorable map of historical events, in which you can see how the borders looked like, could see various information overlays like trade routes, major wars, events, etc.? It's quite an endeavour but I believe a worthy one, and I hope a project like that will start soon.

This could have tremendous effect on people. It's BretVictoresque stuff, things that could expand the space of thoughts we have, and vastly increase our comprehention of information available.

Re: IRC logs from the beginning of the Gulf War (1991)

#20

Post by The_Pherocity »

jdong wrote: post #13
Houshalter wrote: post #9

This is surprisingly interesting. I just picked a random log and found this: test to see if infoserver is echoing messages to group +war. well all this info is probably old. The iraqis caused an oil spill 8-10 miles long and a couple miles wide. It's 12 times the size of that caused by the exxon valdeez. It's not known if wells are actively pumping into the gulf right now, or if they just dumped stored reserves. If t…

This message seems to be way too long for IRC. edit: I really don't get why people are downvoting this, the message appears to have at least 1298 characters.

Explain please?
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