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Re: Put an end to people mispronouncing your name

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Post by silencio »

CocaKoala wrote: post #96
PeterGriffin wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does that make me "less sophisticated" than somebody who looks at their wedding ring and says "Gold prices are up from when we got married; let's cash this sucker in and make some profit"? They wouldn't buy a ring in the first place.

That'd dodging the question and you know it. Maybe the ring is a family heirloom passed down for generations. Still not sophisticated? What about the person who's father left them his vintage 1913 archtop guitar, and they don't really play it that often but have fond memories of listening to their dad noodle around and play blues music in the evening? Is it more reasonable to say that nobody should attach emotional v…

Surprised you're still commenting...

My husband and I also recently got married (congrats to you and your partner from us!) and we designed our rings from scratch - mine with a diamond alternative stone - as seen here: http://cl.ly/image/3A3R24042w0C. PeterGriffin would probably proceed to tell us that our rings are still just garbage sentimental trinkets distracting us from the "substance" of our relationship despite us "making stories" with them.

Nothing about spending the money to get our rings says that we can't also honor what the rings stand for by doing other things. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. That doesn't even come into the equation.

The same could be said about names - you can choose to keep a name due to an attachment while also honoring the origin of the name. This is why I'm just adding more onto my name instead of removing any bit of the name that my parents gave me. (My nickname is longer than my real name, even. My real name is a little too short.)

Ultimately it's a personal decision, and ultimately, like you point out, it's a matter of basic respect to respect someone's choice of name and name pronunciation. Nothing about a choice to be attached to something means that you're stuck "telling stories" and that you're forever doomed to be attracted to the symbol and not the substance.

I am actually quite saddened by the idea of someone living such a life. "Robotic" is kind of an understatement.

Re: Put an end to people mispronouncing your name

#132

Post by PeterGriffin »

silencio wrote: post #131
CocaKoala wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That'd dodging the question and you know it. Maybe the ring is a family heirloom passed down for generations. Still not sophisticated? What about the person who's father left them his vintage 1913 archtop guitar, and they don't really play it that often but have fond memories of listening to their dad noodle around and play blues music in the evening? Is it more reasonable to say that nobody should attach emotional v…

Surprised you're still commenting... My husband and I also recently got married (congrats to you and your partner from us!) and we designed our rings from scratch - mine with a diamond alternative stone - as seen here: http://cl.ly/image/3A3R24042w0C . PeterGriffin would probably proceed to tell us that our rings are still just garbage sentimental trinkets distracting us from the "substance" of our relationship despi…

No I'm actually impressed you designed your own rings. In another setting that would certainly be worth a nice conversation over lunch or dinner with you and your husband.

Maybe my reaction is... beyond understanding... (cue in spooky music).

Also don't confuse "robotic" with my lack of focus on stupid things. I laugh, cry, hate and love a lot too. I can't understand why I need to be a stupid son of a bitch getting hung up on how people pronounce my name or getting overly attached to small shiny commercial objects, in order to do those things.

I also don't believe in witches and black magic. Oh, how robotic.

Re: Put an end to people mispronouncing your name

#133

Post by smickie »

nat wrote: post #42

I don't think this will help as much as they hope it will. In my experience, people are generally incapable of pronouncing anything, even when it is said to their face. My name is Nat, which is about as simple a name as you could ask for. But quite often, I will introduce myself, "Hi, I'm Nat", and the response will be "Nice to meet you, Nate". My wife experiences it too (even from her mother!), so I don't think my p…

We're the UK-side of the office and we have guy called Craig. (Rhymes with plague/vague.)

All of the USA-side pronounce it Krr-egg. Even after I've explained the difference to a group of them, it still goes back to Krr-egg after a week.

I'm Sean, which American's don't have a problem with at all, but I if I had a bitcoin for every-time I was called 'seen' in the UK...

Re: Put an end to people mispronouncing your name

#134

Post by silencio »

PeterGriffin wrote: post #132
silencio wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surprised you're still commenting... My husband and I also recently got married (congrats to you and your partner from us!) and we designed our rings from scratch - mine with a diamond alternative stone - as seen here: http://cl.ly/image/3A3R24042w0C . PeterGriffin would probably proceed to tell us that our rings are still just garbage sentimental trinkets distracting us from the "substance" of our relationship despi…

No I'm actually impressed you designed your own rings. In another setting that would certainly be worth a nice conversation over lunch or dinner with you and your husband. Maybe my reaction is... beyond understanding ... (cue in spooky music). Also don't confuse "robotic" with my lack of focus on stupid things. I laugh, cry, hate and love a lot too. I can't understand why I need to be a stupid son of a bitch getting…

Okay I admit I was surprised ;) I figured that wouldn't be enough of a maker story. We only did it because we were bored by all the identical unsuitable rings we encountered. If we were going to stick with one symbol for our lives, may as well be exactly what we wanted instead of settling.

The robotic part, I suppose, is a combination of your personal feelings on the matter while refusing to see why it may be a problem for others. Not having an attachment to your name by itself is a personal choice I can respect.

BTW if it's of any interest, my first name is Jane. My nickname is Janey. My longer than my full name nickname is "janeylicious". Funny how nobody fucks up the last one (except maybe the spelling) but I have so much trouble with my plain first name to the point that I occasionally just make up a different name or rely only on the nicknames. The plain name stuff can backfire ;)

Re: Put an end to people mispronouncing your name

#135

Post by restalis »

I read here comments about personal experiences with mispronounced names and how this is looked upon as having little or no importance. I'm shocked. The name is the first and foremost part of one's identity. Why would it be acceptable to be corrupted for someone's convenience? It's like "...look, I don't fancy your name much, so I shall call you [...]! It's fine with you, right?" I may keep quiet in response, for not having much control over how I'm being called, but no - it is not and it should not be "fine". It's just about the first modicum of mutual respect as interlocutors.

The world gets globalized, so please -- when come in contact with the folks living outside your courtyard, be prepared to accept at least some small self-change as consequence.

Re: Put an end to people mispronouncing your name

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Post by icegreentea »

smickie wrote: post #133
nat wrote: post #42

I don't think this will help as much as they hope it will. In my experience, people are generally incapable of pronouncing anything, even when it is said to their face. My name is Nat, which is about as simple a name as you could ask for. But quite often, I will introduce myself, "Hi, I'm Nat", and the response will be "Nice to meet you, Nate". My wife experiences it too (even from her mother!), so I don't think my p…

We're the UK-side of the office and we have guy called Craig. (Rhymes with plague/vague.) All of the USA-side pronounce it Krr-egg. Even after I've explained the difference to a group of them, it still goes back to Krr-egg after a week. I'm Sean, which American's don't have a problem with at all, but I if I had a bitcoin for every-time I was called 'seen' in the UK...

It's funny (and I think points to why they keep going back to Krr-egg), that in the accent I speak (standard Canadian... so something of an average), 'Krr-egg' totally rhymes with plague (play-egg) and vague (vay-egg).

Re: Put an end to people mispronouncing your name

#137

Post by goldenkey »

restalis wrote: post #135

I read here comments about personal experiences with mispronounced names and how this is looked upon as having little or no importance. I'm shocked. The name is the first and foremost part of one's identity. Why would it be acceptable to be corrupted for someone's convenience? It's like "...look, I don't fancy your name much, so I shall call you [...]! It's fine with you, right?" I may keep quiet in response, for not…

If someone gets your name wrong , you correct them if you care. It's only disrespect if that person continues to mispronounce your name. And even in that case, the person may have a mental factuality defect and mean no malice. This site is ridiculous and so is your justification. Being stern about your name is such an egotistical attitude

Re: Put an end to people mispronouncing your name

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Post by [deleted] »

restalis wrote: post #135

I read here comments about personal experiences with mispronounced names and how this is looked upon as having little or no importance. I'm shocked. The name is the first and foremost part of one's identity. Why would it be acceptable to be corrupted for someone's convenience? It's like "...look, I don't fancy your name much, so I shall call you [...]! It's fine with you, right?" I may keep quiet in response, for not…

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Re: Put an end to people mispronouncing your name

#139

Post by restalis »

goldenkey wrote: post #137
restalis wrote: post #135

I read here comments about personal experiences with mispronounced names and how this is looked upon as having little or no importance. I'm shocked. The name is the first and foremost part of one's identity. Why would it be acceptable to be corrupted for someone's convenience? It's like "...look, I don't fancy your name much, so I shall call you [...]! It's fine with you, right?" I may keep quiet in response, for not…

If someone gets your name wrong , you correct them if you care. It's only disrespect if that person continues to mispronounce your name. And even in that case, the person may have a mental factuality defect and mean no malice. This site is ridiculous and so is your justification. Being stern about your name is such an egotistical attitude

It's only disrespect if that person continues to mispronounce your name.

I agree. When I present myself, I pronounce my name. Most of the time people people just follow and it feels like a courtesy at best, but there are cases when there's this attitude of entitlement to rename you, and that you are the one that should follow.

the person may have a mental factuality defect and mean no malice.

I haven't suggested to be necessarily malice from the mispronouncers. It may be lack of... many things that become desirable in a globalized society.

This site is ridiculous and so is your justification. Being stern about your name is such an egotistical attitude

The site may be ridiculous, but the problem it tries to address feels real to me. You may not perceive it to be a problem because either you haven't a name that can be easily contorted, or because you have different values in your life. I care about my name and I only ask the same care from others, the same way I try my best to reciprocate that kind of respect when I'm being asked.

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