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Re: Show HN: Show HN

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Post by 001sky » Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 1:52 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #84

001sky wrote: post #65

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Maybe the guidelines should be stickied up top, along with the current explanation text, at least while this gets going! https://news.ycombinator.com/show =/= https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html edit: they are, but just not called out as such. [Show HN] is for something you've made that other people can play with. The newest Show HNs are listed [here]. (eg clicking the first hyperlink will bring them up)

Yes, we clearly need to make those more prominent. Edit: we changed it to emphasize the Show HN guidelines more. Edit 2: I think we'll also write something much more detailed about the kind of discussions we want in Show HN threads: discussions that foster further creativity. Perhaps we'll put it up on the YC blog and then have a new thread about all this, once the dust settles from the first Show HN carnival.

> Show HN is for sharing your work. Please read the [guidelines]. A list of the most recent Show HNs is [here].

. . . Looks good, nice and concise.

Re: Show HN: Show HN

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Post by sinwave » Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 2:14 AM UTC

Arjuna wrote: post #81

rickhanlonii wrote: post #15

Great work! I love when organic user behaviors are recognized and made first class features. Allow me to emphasize something from the Show HN Guidelines[1]: > Be respectful. Anyone sharing creative work is making a contribution, however modest. > Ask questions out of curiosity. Don't cross-examine. > Instead of "you're doing it wrong", suggest alternatives. When someone is learning, help them learn more. > When somet…

I agree 100%. In addition, a friendly reminder to us all... When you see a Show HN, assume that whoever created it, perhaps not unlike you, is working to drive his or her dreams into existence. Each post represents a dream, a personal story, a literal piece of their Life. For many of us, perhaps the majority of us, that means grinding at the mine during the day, returning home after perhaps a long commute, spending t…

This is a great comment. An upvote wasn't enough.

Re: Show HN: Show HN

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Post by mkal_tsr » Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 2:21 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #120

mkal_tsr wrote: post #101

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Would you consider making Show HN posts text only? That way the submitter provides background info / context, why they made the service, what they hope to do with it, etc. I think requiring text-only for Show HN will help minimize people spamming their own links and more about people contributing the experience building their Show HN item. Thoughts?

Experience has taught us that it's healthier when HN stories point to things in the outside world. That's why posts without URLs are penalized. The kind of discussion you describe is good, but it can and does take place in the threads right now.

Fair enough! As long as you keep up the moderation we should be good, hehe.

Re: Show HN: Show HN

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Post by geoffsanders » Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 2:35 AM UTC

I see what you did there...

Re: Show HN: Show HN

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Post by blrgeek » Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 2:35 AM UTC

rickhanlonii wrote: post #15

Great work! I love when organic user behaviors are recognized and made first class features. Allow me to emphasize something from the Show HN Guidelines[1]: > Be respectful. Anyone sharing creative work is making a contribution, however modest. > Ask questions out of curiosity. Don't cross-examine. > Instead of "you're doing it wrong", suggest alternatives. When someone is learning, help them learn more. > When somet…

Can we put these (or a shortened form) on every Show HN post automatically before the comment box?

Something like:

> Is your comment respectful & helpful? > Is it positive criticism?

Please?

Re: Show HN: Show HN

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Post by mattm » Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 2:37 AM UTC

waterside81 wrote: post #49

nostrademons wrote: post #48

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Dropbox did too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 The "Show HN" convention hadn't been invented at that point, though.

The comments on this post are perfect examples of why it's hard to predict what's going to take off and what won't. And also why it's sometimes a good idea to just give people the benefit of doubt.

And also how people on HN sometimes have trouble putting themselves in the shoes of others. The 2nd top comment is a perfect example:

> For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.

Re: Show HN: Show HN

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Post by derefr » Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 3:10 AM UTC

krapp wrote: post #97

adventured wrote: post #92

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Almost makes me wonder if there should be a karma requirement to comment on Show HN posts. I hate restrictions generally speaking, and I don't know if it's safe to assume longer tenured members inherently have more class when offering feedback.

>I don't know if it's safe to assume longer tenured members inherently have more class when offering feedback. I don't think it is. If anything, tenured members may feel more entitled to be rude without consequences. Karma isn't really a measure of civility so much as popularity over time, and it doesn't really communicate any context. Also, if there were a minimum for commenting, there should be a minimum for postin…

> Also, if there were a minimum for commenting, there should be a minimum for posting, which might leave new users with interesting projects out.

I don't get that implication. The commenters, if seen as offering mentorship, should necessarily be more experienced than the people they're trying to help. Otherwise, what's the point?

Re: Show HN: Show HN

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Post by finkin1 » Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 3:23 AM UTC

Really glad to see this - great work! I love following Show HN. I recently posted one about my startup that got to the front page and saw hundreds of sign ups and got some really honest feedback. Thank you for continuing to improve HN for the community!

Re: Show HN: Show HN

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Post by lettergram » Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 3:58 AM UTC

So much ShowHN on the front page

Re: Show HN: Show HN

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Post by onewaystreet » Fri, Jul 04, 2014, 4:01 AM UTC

bane wrote: post #59

rickhanlonii wrote: post #15

Great work! I love when organic user behaviors are recognized and made first class features. Allow me to emphasize something from the Show HN Guidelines[1]: > Be respectful. Anyone sharing creative work is making a contribution, however modest. > Ask questions out of curiosity. Don't cross-examine. > Instead of "you're doing it wrong", suggest alternatives. When someone is learning, help them learn more. > When somet…

Absolutely agree on these guidelines. It takes a lot of bravery to put yourself out there in public. It should take just as much class to offer advice and constructive criticism instead of tearing somebody else's work down. edit also, is it just me or is the front page plastered with Show HN links? Does anybody else think that's awesome ?

Am I the only one who thinks it isn't awesome? As someone who comes to HN for news, I really don't want to see any Shown HN on the front page. Certainly not half the front page filled with them.