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Tinder's Forgotten Woman: Whitney Wolfe, Sexism, and Startup Creation Myths

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Re: Tinder's Forgotten Woman: Whitney Wolfe, Sexism, and Startup Creation Myths

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Post by waterlesscloud »

potatolicious wrote: post #71
hueving wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the negative connotations? I thought the only reason it was considered a bad term was purely because it was considered bad 60 years ago for a woman to be promiscuous. I.e. The insult was calling them promiscuous.

The same negative connotation of "faggot" and "chink" - i.e., that being promiscuous/Chinese/gay/etc is intrinsically bad. I can't speak for the whole world, but in North America at least I've never seen the word "slut" used in everyday speech that wasn't intended to be derogatory. Side note: "purely because it was considered bad 60 years ago for a woman to be promiscuous" I don't think that's 60 years ago, I'm prett…

While I'm pretty sure it was used derogatorily in this case, I've certainly seen it used in a non-derogatory manner. Usually to indicate a sort of unapologetic lover of whatever field.

See- http://www.bookslut.com/

Re: Tinder's Forgotten Woman: Whitney Wolfe, Sexism, and Startup Creation Myths

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Post by tzs »

mrjaeger wrote: post #66
tzs wrote: post #60

> She says that Mateen, whom she dated ...and now I have no reason to believe either her allegations or his defenses. People are simply unreliable witnesses in matters concerning former romantic partners that they are not on good terms with.

Except that there are explicitly documented text messages of him doing exactly what she described http://www.businessinsider.com/tinder-lawsuit-and-sexual-har...

OT, but how come some of the screenshots show an airplane icon AND wifi signal strength? I thought the point of airplane mode was to disable ALL radios on the phone (cellular, wifi, and bluetooth).

Re: Tinder's Forgotten Woman: Whitney Wolfe, Sexism, and Startup Creation Myths

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Post by coryl »

michaelochurch wrote: post #74
jessaustin wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you provide other examples of this phenomenon?

Snapchat and Clinkle. Evan Spiegel should have been fired after the frat emails surfaced. As for Clinkle, that's been around for years and hasn't produced jack shit because it's not even a real company-- just a scam.

Who is Snapchat owned by?

Re: Tinder's Forgotten Woman: Whitney Wolfe, Sexism, and Startup Creation Myths

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Post by protonfish »

jedanbik wrote: post #64
protonfish wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seriously doubt having an "anti-fraternization" policy in your handbook will do anything prevent sexist harassment.

It's better than nothing. It's better than literally nothing.

Writing rules to dictate the personal relationships of your employees is most certainly worse than not. It's draconian and insulting.

Re: Tinder's Forgotten Woman: Whitney Wolfe, Sexism, and Startup Creation Myths

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Post by nialo »

tzs wrote: post #82
mrjaeger wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that there are explicitly documented text messages of him doing exactly what she described http://www.businessinsider.com/tinder-lawsuit-and-sexual-har...

OT, but how come some of the screenshots show an airplane icon AND wifi signal strength? I thought the point of airplane mode was to disable ALL radios on the phone (cellular, wifi, and bluetooth).

On at least some Android phones, it's possible to turn wifi on normally after turning on airplane mode. I'm not sure, but I think that turning on airplane mode just sets all the radios to be off, it doesn't force them to stay off.

Re: Tinder's Forgotten Woman: Whitney Wolfe, Sexism, and Startup Creation Myths

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Post by cb3 »

potatolicious wrote: post #71
hueving wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the negative connotations? I thought the only reason it was considered a bad term was purely because it was considered bad 60 years ago for a woman to be promiscuous. I.e. The insult was calling them promiscuous.

The same negative connotation of "faggot" and "chink" - i.e., that being promiscuous/Chinese/gay/etc is intrinsically bad. I can't speak for the whole world, but in North America at least I've never seen the word "slut" used in everyday speech that wasn't intended to be derogatory. Side note: "purely because it was considered bad 60 years ago for a woman to be promiscuous" I don't think that's 60 years ago, I'm prett…

that being promiscuous is intrinsically bad.

And why do you think that is? Maybe because it is intrinsically a bad thing to do. For civilization as we know it at least.

Better outcomes for children from 2 parent households have been established through scientific investigation.[1]

Why do you think a virgin bride is such a prized thing throughout cultures and ages?

Greater numbers of premarital sexual partners are associated with higher rates of divorce.[2]

It is kind of crazy how in a certain segment of the population's rush to rectify past wrongs they overlook the fact that maybe some things were as they were for sound reasons. You can even surmise that if there is any genetic component to the typical monogamous relationships of human societies then men have a genetically encoded aversion to sluts when seeking a mother for their children.

The normalization of sluttiness is always going to be a losing battle if our civilization is to survive and thrive.

What exactly is the improvement feminists think they are after by trying to normalize sluttiness?

So we've seen, on average two parent households produce "better" children, better children produce better societies, and a higher sexual partner count for a woman prior to marriage produces a higher incidence of divorce.

Anyone care to articulate any reasons why promoting sluttiness is beneficial for the future of humanity?

[1] "Children from two-parent families are better off emotionally, socially and economically"

http://archive.azcentral.com/families/articles/0913marriageh...

"divorce tends to double a child’s risk of a serious negative outcome."

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/07/singl...

[2] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R-WhB9g9eYk/TJDSr8V_ShI/AAAAAAAAAO...

http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2010/09/sexual-partner-d...

And two articles from a site with 'hooking up' in the url.

http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2013/01/22/hookinguprealities/...

http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2010/01/29/hookinguprealities/...

Re: Tinder's Forgotten Woman: Whitney Wolfe, Sexism, and Startup Creation Myths

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Post by mrgn »

tzs wrote: post #82
mrjaeger wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that there are explicitly documented text messages of him doing exactly what she described http://www.businessinsider.com/tinder-lawsuit-and-sexual-har...

OT, but how come some of the screenshots show an airplane icon AND wifi signal strength? I thought the point of airplane mode was to disable ALL radios on the phone (cellular, wifi, and bluetooth).

... Using wifi in airplane mode is a great way to save battery life or prevent calls while using wi-fi. I do this all the time. You can try it yourself (just turn on airplane mode, then turn on wifi) or read more from Apple: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1355

It seems in worrying about wifi, you missed the point of the exhibits submitted, though. You can read the rest of those here: http://www.rezlaw.com/News-Events/06-30-14_Complaint_with_Ex...

Re: Tinder's Forgotten Woman: Whitney Wolfe, Sexism, and Startup Creation Myths

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Post by thezilch »

cb3 wrote: post #87
potatolicious wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same negative connotation of "faggot" and "chink" - i.e., that being promiscuous/Chinese/gay/etc is intrinsically bad. I can't speak for the whole world, but in North America at least I've never seen the word "slut" used in everyday speech that wasn't intended to be derogatory. Side note: "purely because it was considered bad 60 years ago for a woman to be promiscuous" I don't think that's 60 years ago, I'm prett…

that being promiscuous is intrinsically bad. And why do you think that is? Maybe because it is intrinsically a bad thing to do. For civilization as we know it at least. Better outcomes for children from 2 parent households have been established through scientific investigation.[1] Why do you think a virgin bride is such a prized thing throughout cultures and ages? Greater numbers of premarital sexual partners are ass…

If we remove children -- use contraceptives -- and marriage / divorce -- just fuck around -- from the equation, it's no longer promiscuity -- slutty?

Re: Tinder's Forgotten Woman: Whitney Wolfe, Sexism, and Startup Creation Myths

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Post by cb3 »

cb3 wrote: post #87
potatolicious wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same negative connotation of "faggot" and "chink" - i.e., that being promiscuous/Chinese/gay/etc is intrinsically bad. I can't speak for the whole world, but in North America at least I've never seen the word "slut" used in everyday speech that wasn't intended to be derogatory. Side note: "purely because it was considered bad 60 years ago for a woman to be promiscuous" I don't think that's 60 years ago, I'm prett…

that being promiscuous is intrinsically bad. And why do you think that is? Maybe because it is intrinsically a bad thing to do. For civilization as we know it at least. Better outcomes for children from 2 parent households have been established through scientific investigation.[1] Why do you think a virgin bride is such a prized thing throughout cultures and ages? Greater numbers of premarital sexual partners are ass…

To those of you downvoting the above post, thank you. I'm always happy to have my perceptions improved, and I take the downvotes to indicate that you have forthcoming a carefully citationed rebuttal, countering and demonstrating the falseness of the above post and therefore of it being worthy of downvoting.

I await the opportunity to learn something new.

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