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Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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Post by tzs »

> According to government data, the Denver city- and county-wide murder rate has dropped 52.9% since recreational marijuana use was legalized in January. This is compared to the same period last year, a time frame encompassing Jan. 1 through April 30.

They need to also compare with demographically similar cities and counties that did not legalize marijuana. Crime is often heavily influenced by national or broad regional factors. You have to identify and account for this when trying to figure out how much of an affect a local factor (such as marijuana legalization in your state) had.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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Post by lowmagnet »

munificent wrote: post #77

Since the statistics in that article are terribly misleading, I took the effort to make a chart with some more data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1waFpYd7jK9nUcb1VbPOL... It's based on the raw data here: http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/720/documents/statistics/20... http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/720/documents/statistics/20... http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/720/documents/statistics/20... Personally, I…

The point in the article was unclear; I think they meant to say something more along the lines of "crime didn't go up by eleventy-thousand percent" rather than "crime went down".

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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Post by thesz »

Nursie wrote: post #102
blocktuw wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been following all the legalization news closely since I live in Denver. The FUD from opponents of legalization are that it will negatively affect children since access will increase. The 'hey mister' won't be only for alcohol anymore but for cannabis too. Many edible products seem to be targeting children with products like gummy bears, hard candies, brownies, sodas, etc. This would increase the likelihood of a…

I do wonder what people think is going to happen to children who accidentally ingest the stuff. AFAICT there's not a lot of danger compared to alcohol. I absolutely am not suggesting kids should be allowed pot, just that I think the hysteria is overstated.

The effects can be subtle: http://www.csam-asam.org/sites/default/files/impact_of_marij...

E.g., earlier onset of psychosis symptoms, etc.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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Post by Nursie »

thesz wrote: post #113
Nursie wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do wonder what people think is going to happen to children who accidentally ingest the stuff. AFAICT there's not a lot of danger compared to alcohol. I absolutely am not suggesting kids should be allowed pot, just that I think the hysteria is overstated.

The effects can be subtle: http://www.csam-asam.org/sites/default/files/impact_of_marij... E.g., earlier onset of psychosis symptoms, etc.

Oh sure, that's talking mostly about chronic/repeated use, rather than one-off accidental ingestion which is what I was aiming my comment at.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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Post by akmiller »

chenelson wrote: post #90
akmiller wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not in Colorado but I saw one of the downsides the other day which is the manufacture of items like candy bars with multiple serving sizes of THC in the one bar. People aren't paying much attention to the serving sizes and there appears to be no restrictions in place yet on how much can be in a given food item. I'm in favor of legalization but there may need to be some more restrictions in place on how much THC c…

People, especially those in their early 20s, tend to not pay attention to the serving size for alcohol, sometimes to the point of death. Those drinking for the first time often experience a hangover. People, especially those of retirement age, tend to ignore the serving size for aspirin, to the point of 30k deaths per year. THC is still rolling with a zero body count. The patriarchy cannot save us from our own ignora…

True, but we are talking about things like candy bars. Kids can pick up a candy bar and not realize that a candy bar that contains THC is any different than a regular candy bar. Not to mention that the candy bar may contain extreme dosages of THC.

Re: Six Months After Legalizing Marijuana, Two Big Things Have Happened in Colorado

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Post by chenelson »

akmiller wrote: post #115
chenelson wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People, especially those in their early 20s, tend to not pay attention to the serving size for alcohol, sometimes to the point of death. Those drinking for the first time often experience a hangover. People, especially those of retirement age, tend to ignore the serving size for aspirin, to the point of 30k deaths per year. THC is still rolling with a zero body count. The patriarchy cannot save us from our own ignora…

True, but we are talking about things like candy bars. Kids can pick up a candy bar and not realize that a candy bar that contains THC is any different than a regular candy bar. Not to mention that the candy bar may contain extreme dosages of THC.

Where are "kids" going to find these "candy bars" with "extreme" doses of, what, 100mg of THC? Where are their parents? Can these kids read or are we talking about toddlers? What are the consequences? Are they similiar to aspirin, the Clorox under your sink, or the pathongenic microrganisms in the streams that course through the city? Of course not.

Again, zero body count but tons of fear about something people have been doing since there were people.

Oh, and regulations mandate all edibles be served in child-resistant packaging.

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