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EU's right to be forgotten: Guardian articles have been hidden by Google

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Re: EU's right to be forgotten: Guardian articles have been hidden by Google

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This is, among other things, a terribly confusing situation. Who's to blame? The person who asks to have results expunged? The law that requires Google to comply? Google for complying? Or no one—is the right thing being done, the "pen" of the Internet being dulled back into a pencil?

Re: EU's right to be forgotten: Guardian articles have been hidden by Google

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The interesting part of this, for me, is that the Guardian believes that a) Google has the power to put the genie back in the bottle (dubious, but reflective of Google's massive control of Internet navigation) and b) the Guardian would have the power to put the genie back in the bottle (absurd).

Re: EU's right to be forgotten: Guardian articles have been hidden by Google

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This law is a very serious threat to freedom of the press, and freedom of speech in general. While it was (allegedly) introduced for reasons that seem quite reasonable - avoiding unfair reputations in search results - it could quite validly be termed as "Right to censor criticism or true facts about yourself".

Let's take high-profile person X who is found guilty of some serious crime, like sex offences. They have the money to hire a professional "reputation management" firm to find all stories in the press about them, and send takedown requests to Google, who is legally compelled to comply with those requests. The result is that information that is out there in the public domain, and that the public arguably has a right to know, is censored.

There's a balance here between an individual's right to be protected against defamation, and the public's right to know. I don't think this law strikes the right balance. Furthermore, it ignores the technical and social nature of how the Internet works - the so called "Streisand effect" that repeatedly gets invoked whenever someone tries to suppress information. And as technology evolves and there's even more ways for information to become replicated (think peer-to-peer search engines and the like), it's like trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Re: EU's right to be forgotten: Guardian articles have been hidden by Google

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I really really do not like this. Who needs government to create an Orwellian future when we are more than willing to do it to ourselves.

I am especially distressed that people can remove all the wrong they do from sight. What is next? Deny the holocaust? (yes hyperbole)

Re: EU's right to be forgotten: Guardian articles have been hidden by Google

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This law is a very serious threat to freedom of the press, and freedom of speech in general. While it was (allegedly) introduced for reasons that seem quite reasonable - avoiding unfair reputations in search results - it could quite validly be termed as "Right to censor criticism or true facts about yourself". Let's take high-profile person X who is found guilty of some serious crime, like sex offences. They have the…

There's no threat at all to either freedom of speech or the press.

If the guardian publishes something, it will have its day in the sun.

It just will eventually get removed, years afterwards. No press freedoms impinged, years after you've had your expressive speech.

Whatever freedom that is, freedom of historical reports?, it's nothing to do with speech or press. If you want to re-report the information, you could, but it then would likely no longer be for the public good or interest, it would merely be vindictive.

Unless, of course, you don't believe in redemption or rehabilitation.

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